regards
Sandeep
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Greg Smith <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sandeep Srinivasa wrote:You can't usefully limit the amount of memory that PostgreSQL will consume yet. Each client can easily allocate multiples of work_mem worth of memory as they run queries, and there's temp_buffers to be concerned about too. One way to work around problems like this is to significantly limit the number of clients that can be running at a time, using something like a connection pooler, and then keep a low setting for max_connections. This can have some positive performance benefits of its own, and it will keep the number of clients (the only real source of variable allocations on the server) from getting too large. Software suitable for that purpose includes pgbouncer and pgpool.
I was looking at ways to optimize the postgres database and yet limit the amount of memory that it can consume.
That's correct. It doesn't allocate anything. Doesn't limit anything either.
Now, the "effective cache size" variable seems more of a hint to the query planner, than any hard limit on the database server.
After fighting a few random crashes where the server runs into ulimit, you will find that trying to hard limit PostgreSQL memory usage is more trouble than it's worth. It's really a bad place to go.
Q1. if I add "ulimit -m" and "ulimit -v" lines in my postgres upstart files will that be good enough to hard-limit Postgres memory usage ?
effective_cache_size has no relation to the limits. Take a look at how much of your operating system cache you think might be free at any time. Figure out what percentage of that you might want PostgreSQL to be able to use sometime. Set effective_cache_size to it. If a query goes wild and decides to execute a really bad query plan that reads a bunch of data, it will trash the operating system cache regardless; you can't stop it like this.
Q2. once I have decided my max memory allocation (call it MY_ULIMIT) - should effective cache size be set to MY_ULIMIT - 256 - 12 -20 ? round it off to MY_ULIMIT - 512mb maybe....
If you ever let the system get so low on RAM that the Linux OOM killer becomes active, it will almost always kill the main database server process, the one that spawns all the clients off, due to how Linux does shared memory accounting. This is another really bad things to be avoided.
Q3. Or will doing something like this play havoc with the query planner/unexplained OOM/crashes ?
Each of the autovacuum processes (defaulting to 3) will use up to maintenance_work_mem worth of memory when they are running. You should account for that when estimating peak usage.
1. will this affect the memory usage of vacuum (going to be using default vacuum settings for 8.4) - because ideally I would want to have some control over it as well.
Limiting max_connections, and accordingly dealing with the fact that some connections might be refused temporarily in your application, is the most effective thing you can do here. max_files_per_process is really secondary to any of the other bits you're asking about.
2. Would I have to tune max_connections, max_files_per_process (and any related variables) ?
Set wal_buffers somewhere between 1MB and 16MB, include it in the general server shared memory overhead, and then ignore it. It takes up a little memory but isn't nearly as important as these other bits.
3. When I turn on WAL, would I have to tune wal_buffers accordingly set effective cache size to account for wal_buffers as well ?
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