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quoth Greg Smith:

Herouth Maoz wrote:
Aren't socket writes supposed to have time outs of some sort? Stupid policies notwithstanding, processes on the client side can disappear for any number of reasons - bugs, power failures, whatever - and this is not something that is supposed to cause a backend to hang, I would assume.
As a general commentary on this area, in most cases where I've seen an unkillable backend, which usually becomes noticed when the server won't shutdown, have resulted from bad socket behavior. It's really a tricky area to get right, and presuming the database backends will be robust in the case of every possible weird OS behavior is hard to guarantee. However, if you can repeatably get the server into this bad state at will, it may be worth spending some more time digging into this in hopes there is something valuable to learn about your situation that can improve the keepalive handling on the server side. Did you mention your PostgreSQL server version and platform? I didn't see the exact code path you're stuck in during a quick look at the code involved (using a snapshot of recent development), which makes me wonder if this isn't already a resolved problem in a newer version.

The server version is 8.3.1. Migration to a higher version might be difficult as far as policies go, if there isn't a supported debian package for it, but if you can point out a version where this has been fixed I might be able to persuade my boss and sysadmin.

Thank you for referring me to that entry in the FAQ.

By the way, the situation repeated itself today as well.

Thanks,
Herouth

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