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Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. > From: corey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: tgl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Embarassing GROUP question > Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:56:02 -0500 > CC: sam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > We're coming from mysql 4, and changing the sort order changes the > values of all columns as you would expect, given that you would expect > a sort statement to affect grouping. This certainly isn't the only > time I've used this syntax. I've been mysql user for ten years, and > the outcome has been consistant across hundreds of tables and millions > of rows and thousands of queries. If you ever have to use or modify a > mysql db, just keep this in mind in case it saves you some time. > > That being said, we've discovered a few instances where docs were > wrong, found numerous bugs with bitshifting and blob objects and cache > usage and io buffering. We even sarted working on our own storage > engine until we came to our senses and switched RDBMSeses. > > 5.1 has chased more than a few folks off, and rather than upgrade to > it, we started porting to postgres. I didn't mean for my comparison to > appearas a knock against postgres, merely to explain why I was having > such a problem with such a simple issue. Thanks again for the help. > > Corey Tisdale > > On Oct 3, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Sam Mason <sam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 01:05:49PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > >>> but looking at this example, and presuming that you find that > >>> it actually does something useful, I wonder whether they interpret > >>> the combination of GROUP BY and ambiguous-per-spec ORDER BY > >>> in some fashion similar to DISTINCT ON. > > > >> Yup, does look that way doesn't it. It's still a weird pair of > >> semantics to conflate. > > > > I poked around in the MySQL 5.1 manual to see if this is true. > > I think it isn't --- it says very clearly here: > > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/group-by-hidden-columns.html > > that you simply get an arbitrary choice among the possible values > > when you reference an ambiguous column. It's possible that Corey's > > query actually does give him the answers he wants, but apparently > > it would be an implementation artifact that they're not promising > > to maintain. > > > >> Hum, if they were assuming that you'd always have to implement > >> GROUP BY > >> by doing a sort step first then I can see why they'd end up with > >> this. > > > > It's worse than that --- they actually are promising that GROUP BY > > orders the results! In > > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/select.html > > I find > > > > If you use GROUP BY, output rows are sorted according to the > > GROUP BY columns as if you had an ORDER BY for the same > > columns. To avoid the overhead of sorting that GROUP BY > > produces, add ORDER BY NULL: > > > > SELECT a, COUNT(b) FROM test_table GROUP BY a ORDER BY NULL; > > > > MySQL extends the GROUP BY clause so that you can also specify > > ASC and DESC after columns named in the clause: > > > > SELECT a, COUNT(b) FROM test_table GROUP BY a DESC; > > > > The first of these examples implies that they allow ORDER BY to > > override > > the default GROUP BY sorting, which would mean that the ORDER BY sort > > has to happen after the GROUP BY operation, unlike the approach we > > take > > for DISTINCT ON. So that means the ORDER BY *isn't* going to affect > > which row gets chosen out of each event_type group. > > > > What I am currently betting is that Corey's query does not really do > > what he thinks it does in MySQL. It probably is selecting a random > > representative row in each group and then sorting on the basis of the > > event_dates in those rows. > > > > regards, tom lane > > > > -- > > Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) > > To make changes to your subscription: > > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general > > -- > Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) > To make changes to your subscription: > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. |