On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 10:31:07PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > > Yeah. We agreed in principle awhile back to "fix" this on the backend > > > > side by postponing the actual transaction start until the first command > > > > after BEGIN. I looked at this just before 7.4 feature freeze, but > > > > decided it wasn't quite trivial and I hadn't time to make it happen. > > > > No one's gone back to work on it during the 7.5 cycle either. > > > > > > > > Right now I'm not wanting to touch that code since both Alvaro and the > > > > 2PC guy have open patches against it... > > > > Actually, my patch is waiting for you to review it ;-) On the other > > hand, since I'm already touching that code, maybe I can include it in my > > patch. Or would you prefer to keep those things separate? > > Alvaro, can I ask what is left? Several things. I think I wrote them along with my previous patch. The visibility rules and the pg_clog protocol are what comes to mind immediately. This is the difficult part. > I know you have pg_subtrans, but what plans do you have to abort > subtransactions and bring the system back to the state before the > subtransaction started? Some of those things are already in place. For example cursors are closed/dropped, file deletions (DROP TABLE) no longer take place, file creation is reverted, and the server is in a known state. Some things are missing: how to deal with deferred triggers, prepared statements, locks, on-commit actions. -- Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) "Vivir y dejar de vivir son soluciones imaginarias. La existencia está en otra parte" (Andre Breton) ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org