I have to store some files in a database and let users download the files. I want to pull the file size so I can use the HTTP Content-length header. I've tried using PHP's fstat to return the size, but I think the object returned by pg_lo_open is not suitable. Any ideas? BTW, I figured this was a pretty common need, but I could not find a complete widget to deal with it. The best I could come up with was complete apps, mostly image galleries, and a few code snippets. Thom Dyson Director of Information Services Sybex, Inc.