When I say I didn't have problems with pconnect; I meant I never had the resource-id problem with pg_pconnect that you described in your initial message. I still have the resource-id problem when using pg_connect (called via phplib), but I work around it for now by making my $dbc variable global. I would still prefer to see a resolution to the problem as you initially described it. I had the "too many connections" problem with pconnect under apache as my number of databases increased. Each apache child maintains it's own list of permanent connections (also see below). I have a database for each domain being hosted on my server, so number of databases multipled by number of children finally got up to the max number of connections in postgres/apache. At this point, I changed the phplib code to use pg_connect instead of pg_pconnect. pconnect will save you time making connection to psql, that much is true and stated in all kinds of docs. What they don't tell you is that the saving when pgsql is on the same box is marginal. In a case where you have a huge site and a single database on a separate database server, then pconnect makes sense to save the connect time between the two boxes. At the other end of the scale is many databases on the same server as your web server; in this case pg_connect makes more sense to reduce total number of connections. In between is the usual grey area. What a minute... When I said each apache child process keeps it's own list of p-connections, I should also add that a new connection is created whenever the database name or userid changes. I tend to forget this part, because I create a userid per database and all accesses from apache to a database uses that userid. In order words, I never have the situation where a single database is accessable by two users. Although there is no utility to 'delete' permanent connections, they will go away when not used, I don't how how long exacly, but it was longer than a hour and less than a day. Frank At 11:25 AM 1/11/02 -0500, Chadwick Rolfs wrote: >On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Frank Bax wrote: >> I never had any problems with pg_pconnect either. When I switched to > >Thanks for the tip! I think we'll eventually get around to writing our >own libs for php/postgresql, I'll check out PHPLIB DB for examples (or >convince them to use it:)) >I've had problems with people making too many pconnections, and couldn't >even psql into postgresql. Apache needs to be reset at that point, and >there doesn't seem to be any new function to kill pconnections....you've >never had problems with that? > >Chadwick Rolfs - cmr@xxxxxxx >Cleveland State University - Student >Music Major - The Holden Arboretum Volunteer >Computer Programmer - Student Employee >--*I finally found powdered water; >I just can't figure out what to add to it*--