Jerry, OMG, I think you nailed this... I know what I did. I cut/pasted the command from an e-mail... I have seen this issue before with stuff not related to postgres. But then those commands failed in syntax error and then you know what you did wrong. Similarly, I expect pg_upgrade to throw an error if it finds something it doesn't understand instead of ignoring and causing damage. Don't you agree? Thanks for pointing that out. I will redo my upgrade. -r -v -k -c --- good flags no utf8 -r -v -k –c --- bad flags.... -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Sievers [mailto:gsievers19@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 6:24 PM To: Murthy Nunna <mnunna@xxxxxxxx> Cc: Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx>; pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; pgsql-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: pg_upgrade 10.2 Murthy Nunna <mnunna@xxxxxxxx> writes: > Hi Adrian, > > Port numbers are correct. > > I moved the position of -c (-p 5433 -P 5434 -c -r -v). Now it is NOT complaining about old cluster running. However, I am running into a different problem. I noted in your earlier message the final -c... the dash was not a regular 7bit ascii char but some UTF or whatever dash char. I wonder if that's what you fed your shell and it caused a silent parsing issue, eg the -c dropped. But of course email clients wrap and mangle text like that all sorts of fun ways so lordy knows just what you originally sent :-) FWIW > > New cluster database "ifb_prd_last" is not empty Failure, exiting > > Note: ifb_prd_last is not new cluster. It is actually old cluster. > > Is this possibly because in one of my earlier attempts where I > shutdown old cluster and ran pg_upgrade with -c at the end of the > command line. I think -c was ignored and my cluster has been upgraded > in that attempt. Is that possible? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adrian Klaver [mailto:adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 4:35 PM > To: Murthy Nunna <mnunna@xxxxxxxx>; > pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; pgsql-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: pg_upgrade 10.2 > > On 06/12/2018 02:18 PM, Murthy Nunna wrote: >> pg_upgrade -V >> pg_upgrade (PostgreSQL) 10.4 >> >> pg_upgrade -b /fnal/ups/prd/postgres/v9_3_14_x64/Linux-2-6/bin -B >> /fnal/ups/prd/postgres/v10_4_x64/Linux-2-6/bin -d >> /data0/pgdata/ifb_prd_last -D /data0/pgdata/ifb_prd_last_104 -p 5433 >> -P 5434 -r -v –c >> >> > > Looks good to me. The only thing that stands out is that in your original post you had: > > -p 5432 > > and above you have: > > -p 5433 > > Not sure if that makes a difference. > > The only suggestion I have at the moment is to move -c from the end of the line to somewhere earlier on the chance that there is a bug that is not finding it when it's at the end. > > > -- > Adrian Klaver > adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx -- Jerry Sievers Postgres DBA/Development Consulting e: postgres.consulting@xxxxxxxxxxx p: 312.241.7800