Justin Pryzby <pryzby@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > As the queued_alters table is typically empty (and autoanalyzed with > relpages=0), I see "why": > ./src/backend/optimizer/util/plancat.c > | if (curpages < 10 && > | rel->rd_rel->relpages == 0 && > | !rel->rd_rel->relhassubclass && > | rel->rd_rel->relkind != RELKIND_INDEX) > | curpages = 10; So I'm sure you read the comment above that, too. I'm loath to abandon the principle that the planner should not believe that tables are empty/tiny without some forcing function. There are going to be way more people screaming about the plans they get from too-small rowcount estimates than the reverse. However, maybe we could do better about detecting whether a vacuum or analyze has really happened. (Autovacuum won't normally touch a table until a fair number of rows have been put in it, so if a table is tiny but has been vacuumed, we can presume that that was a manual action.) One idea is to say that relpages = reltuples = 0 is only the state that prevails for a freshly-created table, and that VACUUM or ANALYZE should always set relpages to at least 1 even if the physical size is zero. Dunno if that would confuse people. Or we could bite the bullet and add a "relanalyzed" bool flag to pg_class. It's not like that's going to be a noticeable percentage increase in the row width ... > But is there a better way (I don't consider adding a row of junk to be a significant improvement). Not ATM. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance