Hi all -- I am trying to do a better job of understanding why the planner chooses some plans over others, and I ran into this issue this morning where the planner ends up choosing a query that's 15000x slower. I have a table that represents nodes (here called "components") in a tree. Each node has a parent_id; the root node has a NULL parent_id. I wanted to find the route from each node to its root. Here is my query: # explain analyze WITH RECURSIVE path(start, id, internal_id, parent_id, document_id, depth) AS ( SELECT t.id, t.id, t.internal_id, t.parent_id, t.document_id, 1 FROM component t WHERE id < 6361197 UNION ALL SELECT path.start, t.id, t.internal_id, t.parent_id, t.document_id, path.depth+1 FROM component t, path WHERE t.internal_id = path.parent_id AND t.document_id=path.document_id ) SELECT * FROM path ; QUERY PLAN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CTE Scan on path (cost=61484650.85..61484654.39 rows=177 width=24) (actual time=0.007..36.958 rows=1007 loops=1) CTE path -> Recursive Union (cost=0.57..61484650.85 rows=177 width=24) (actual time=0.007..36.755 rows=1007 loops=1) -> Index Scan using component_pkey on component t (cost=0.57..644.56 rows=167 width=16) (actual time=0.006..0.076 rows=218 loops=1) Index Cond: (id < 6361197) -> Nested Loop (cost=0.57..6148400.28 rows=1 width=24) (actual time=0.063..4.054 rows=88 loops=9) -> WorkTable Scan on path path_1 (cost=0.00..33.40 rows=1670 width=16) (actual time=0.000..0.006 rows=112 loops=9) -> Index Scan using component_document_id on component t_1 (cost=0.57..3681.65 rows=1 width=16) (actual time=0.023..0.036 rows=1 loops=1007) Index Cond: (document_id = path_1.document_id) Filter: (path_1.parent_id = internal_id) Rows Removed by Filter: 237 Total runtime: 37.039 ms However, when I add one more row to the seed query of the CTE, it changes the plan to this: # explain analyze WITH RECURSIVE path(start, id, internal_id, parent_id, document_id, depth) AS ( SELECT t.id, t.id, t.internal_id, t.parent_id, t.document_id, 1 FROM component t WHERE id < 6361198 UNION ALL SELECT path.start, t.id, t.internal_id, t.parent_id, t.document_id, path.depth+1 FROM component t, path WHERE t.internal_id = path.parent_id AND t.document_id=path.document_id ) SELECT * FROM path ; QUERY PLAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CTE Scan on path (cost=61122640.05..61122643.61 rows=178 width=24) (actual time=0.008..587814.729 rows=1008 loops=1) CTE path -> Recursive Union (cost=0.57..61122640.05 rows=178 width=24) (actual time=0.006..587814.346 rows=1008 loops=1) -> Index Scan using component_pkey on component t (cost=0.57..648.36 rows=168 width=16) (actual time=0.006..0.076 rows=219 loops=1) Index Cond: (id < 6361198) -> Hash Join (cost=5543292.40..6112198.81 rows=1 width=24) (actual time=64743.932..65312.625 rows=88 loops=9) Hash Cond: ((path_1.parent_id = t_1.internal_id) AND (path_1.document_id = t_1.document_id)) -> WorkTable Scan on path path_1 (cost=0.00..33.60 rows=1680 width=16) (actual time=0.001..0.015 rows=112 loops=9) -> Hash (cost=3627866.96..3627866.96 rows=96335696 width=16) (actual time=64572.641..64572.641 rows=94613537 loops=9) Buckets: 4096 Batches: 8192 Memory Usage: 537kB -> Seq Scan on component t_1 (cost=0.00..3627866.96 rows=96335696 width=16) (actual time=0.005..43364.346 rows=94613537 loops=9) Total runtime: 587814.885 ms I would think that it has decided that the document_id index is not very selective for the given mix of rows, however I checked the statistics for the table and I found that n_distinct for document_id is 101559 (the true value is 162545). The value of pg_class.reltuples for the table is 96055600, which is very close to the true value 94613537. In the first query, it appears to me that postgres thinks the index scan is much more expensive than it really is. However, given the accurate statistics, I can't see how. BTW I tried playing with random_page_cost. If I lower it to 2.0 then it chooses the fast plan. At 3.0 it chooses the slow plan. Thanks! Patrick -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance