Re: Turn off Hyperthreading! WAS: 60 core performance with 9.3

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On 21/08/14 07:13, Josh Berkus wrote:
Mark, all:

So, this is pretty damming:

Read-only test with HT ON:

[pgtest@db ~]$ pgbench -c 20 -j 4 -T 600 -S bench
starting vacuum...end.
transaction type: SELECT only
scaling factor: 30
query mode: simple
number of clients: 20
number of threads: 4
duration: 600 s
number of transactions actually processed: 47167533
tps = 78612.471802 (including connections establishing)
tps = 78614.604352 (excluding connections establishing)

Read-only test with HT Off:

[pgtest@db ~]$ pgbench -c 20 -j 4 -T 600 -S bench
starting vacuum...end.
transaction type: SELECT only
scaling factor: 30
query mode: simple
number of clients: 20
number of threads: 4
duration: 600 s
number of transactions actually processed: 82457739
tps = 137429.508196 (including connections establishing)
tps = 137432.893796 (excluding connections establishing)


On a read-write test, it's 10% faster with HT off as well.

Further, from their production machine we've seen that having HT on
causes the machine to slow down by 5X whenever you get more than 40
cores (as in 100% of real cores or 50% of HT cores) worth of activity.

So we're definitely back to "If you're using PostgreSQL, turn off
Hyperthreading".



Hmm - that is interesting - I don't think we compared read only scaling for hyperthreading on and off (only read write). You didn't mention what cpu this is for (or how many sockets etc), would be useful to know.

Notwithstanding the above results, my workmate Matt made an interesting observation: the scaling graph for (our) 60 core box (HT off), looks just like the one for our 32 core box with HT *on*.

We are wondering if a lot of the previous analysis of HT performance regressions should actually be reevaluated in the light of ...err is it just that we have a lot more cores...? [1]

Regards

Mark

[1] Particularly as in *some* cases (single socket i7 for instance) HT on seems to scale fine.


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