På torsdag 01. mai 2014 kl. 23:02:13, skrev Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@xxxxxxxxx>:
2014-05-01 22:30 GMT+02:00 Andreas Joseph Krogh <andreas@xxxxxxxxxx>:På torsdag 01. mai 2014 kl. 21:53:32, skrev Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@xxxxxxxxx>:2014-05-01 21:39 GMT+02:00 Andreas Joseph Krogh <andreas@xxxxxxxxxx>:På torsdag 01. mai 2014 kl. 21:30:39, skrev Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@xxxxxxxxx>:Hello[snip]I had a perfect success on similar use case with descent ordered partial index
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/interactive/sql-createindex.htmlI'm not getting good performance. Are you able to craft an example using my schema and partial index?maybe some like
CREATE INDEX ON message_property (person_id, message_id) WHERE pr.is_read
When I am thinking about your schema, it is designed well, but it is not index friendly, so for some fast access you should to hold a cache (table) of unread messagesAh, that's what I was hoping to not having to do. In my system, messages arrive all the time and having to update a cache for all new messages for all users seems messy... Seems I could just as well create a message_property for all users when a new message arrives, so I can INNER JOIN it and get good performance. But that table will quickly grow *very* large...What you need is a JOIN index, that is not possible in Postgres.I afraid so some "ugly" solutions is necessary (when you require extra fast access). You need a index (small index) and it require some existing set - you cannot do index on the difference two sets.
I expect so some flag on the relation "message" - like "it should not be not read" can helps little bit - and can be used in partial index as conditions. Other possibility is some variant of partitioning - you can divide a messages and users to distinct sets and then you decrease a number of possible combinations.
Just curious:
Is such a JOIN index possible in other DBs, if so - which?
Can other DBs do index on difference between two sets?
Will PG ever have this, is it even possible?
In my real system the message_property holds other properties for a message also, so I have to LEFT OUTER JOIN with it to get the properties where they exist when listing messages. The system works by assuming that when an entry in message_property does not exist for a given message for a given user then the property is equal to "false".
I don't quite see how maintaining a message_properrty entry for all users, for all messages, is a good idea. That's quite some work to be done when adding/removing users etc.
Thanks for having this discussion.
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