Vladimir, And, any effect on your problem? On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Бородин Владимир <root@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I have limited max connections to 1000, reduced shared buffers to 8G and restarted postgres. 1000 is still to much in most cases. With pgbouncer in transaction pooling mode normaly pool size 8-32, max_connections = 100 (default value) and client_connections 500-1500 looks more reasonable. > I have also noticed that this big tables stopped vacuuming automatically a couple of weeks ago. It could be the reason of the problem, I will now try to tune autovacuum parameters to turn it back. But yesterday I ran "vacuum analyze" for all relations manually but that did not help. How do your autovacuum parameters look like now? > 13.02.2014, в 0:14, Ilya Kosmodemiansky <hydrobiont@xxxxxxxxx> написал(а): > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Бородин Владимир <root@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Yes, this is legacy, I will fix it. We had lots of inactive connections but right now we use pgbouncer for this. When the workload is normal we have some kind of 80-120 backends. Less than 10 of them are in active state. Having problem with locks we get lots of sessions (sometimes more than 1000 of them are in active state). According to vmstat the number of context switches is not so big (less than 20k), so I don't think it is the main reason. Yes, it can aggravate the problem, but imho not create it. > > > > I'am afraid that is the problem. More than 1000 backends, most of them > are simply waiting. > > > > I don't understand the correlation of shared buffers size and synchronous_commit. Could you please explain your statement? > > > > You need to fsync your huge shared buffers any time your database > performs checkpoint. By default it usually happens too often because > checkpoint_timeout is 5min by default. Without bbu, on software raid > that leads to io spike and you commit waits for wal. > > > > 12.02.2014, в 23:37, Ilya Kosmodemiansky <hydrobiont@xxxxxxxxx> написал(а): > > another thing which is arguable - concurrency degree. How many of your max_connections = 4000 are actually running? 4000 definitely looks like an overkill and they could be a serious source of concurrency, especially then you have had barrier enabled and software raid. > > Plus for 32Gb of shared buffers with synchronous_commit = on especially on heavy workload one should definitely have bbu, otherwise performance will be poor. > > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Бородин Владимир <root@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Oh, I haven't thought about barriers, sorry. Although I use soft raid without batteries I have turned barriers off on one cluster shard to try. > > root@rpopdb01e ~ # mount | fgrep data > /dev/md2 on /var/lib/pgsql/9.3/data type ext4 (rw,noatime,nodiratime) > root@rpopdb01e ~ # mount -o remount,nobarrier /dev/md2 > root@rpopdb01e ~ # mount | fgrep data > /dev/md2 on /var/lib/pgsql/9.3/data type ext4 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,nobarrier) > root@rpopdb01e ~ # > > 12.02.2014, в 21:56, Ilya Kosmodemiansky <hydrobiont@xxxxxxxxx> написал(а): > > My question was actually about barrier option, by default it is enabled on RHEL6/ext4 and could cause serious bottleneck on io before disks are actually involved. What says mount without arguments? > > On Feb 12, 2014, at 18:43, Бородин Владимир <root@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > root@rpopdb01e ~ # fgrep data /etc/fstab > UUID=f815fd3f-e4e4-43a6-a6a1-bce1203db3e0 /var/lib/pgsql/9.3/data ext4 noatime,nodiratime 0 1 > root@rpopdb01e ~ # > > According to iostat the disks are not the bottleneck. > > 12.02.2014, в 21:30, Ilya Kosmodemiansky <hydrobiont@xxxxxxxxx> написал(а): > > Hi Vladimir, > > Just in case: how is your ext4 mount? > > Best regards, > Ilya > > On Feb 12, 2014, at 17:59, Бородин Владимир <root@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi all. > > Today I have started getting errors like below in logs (seems that I have not changed anything for last week). When it happens the db gets lots of connections in state active, eats 100% cpu and clients get errors (due to timeout). > > 2014-02-12 15:44:24.562 MSK,"rpop","rpopdb_p6",30061,"localhost:58350",52fb5e53.756d,1,"SELECT waiting",2014-02-12 15:43:15 MSK,143/264877,1002850566,LOG,00000,"process 30061 still waiting for ExclusiveLock on extension of relation 26118 of database 24590 after 1000.082 ms",,,,,"SQL statement ""insert into rpop.rpop_imap_uidls (folder_id, uidl) values (i_folder_id, i_uidl)"" > > I have read several topics [1, 2, 3, 4] with similar problems but haven't find a good solution. Below is some more diagnostics. > > I am running PostgreSQL 9.3.2 installed from RPM packages on RHEL 6.4. Host is running with the following CPU (32 cores) and memory: > > root@rpopdb01e ~ # fgrep -m1 'model name' /proc/cpuinfo > model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2660 0 @ 2.20GHz > root@rpopdb01e ~ # free -m > total used free shared buffers cached > Mem: 129028 123558 5469 0 135 119504 > -/+ buffers/cache: 3918 125110 > Swap: 16378 0 16378 > root@rpopdb01e ~ # > > PGDATA lives on RAID6 array of 8 ssd-disks with ext4, iostat and atop say the disks are really free. Right now PGDATA takes only 95G. > The settings changed in postgresql.conf are here [5]. > > When it happens the last query from here [6] shows that almost all queries are waiting for ExclusiveLock, but they do a simple insert. > > (extend,26647,26825,,,,,,,) | 5459 | ExclusiveLock | 1 | (extend,26647,26825,,,,,,,) | 8053 | ExclusiveLock | 5459,8053 > (extend,26647,26828,,,,,,,) | 5567 | ExclusiveLock | 1 | (extend,26647,26828,,,,,,,) | 5490 | ExclusiveLock | 5567,5490 > (extend,24584,25626,,,,,,,) | 5611 | ExclusiveLock | 1 | (extend,24584,25626,,,,,,,) | 3963 | ExclusiveLock | 5611,3963 > > I have several databases running on one host with one postmaster process and ExclusiveLock is being waited by many oids. I suppose the only common thing for all of them is that they are bigger than others and they almost do not get updates and deletes (only inserts and reads). Some more info about one of such tables is here [7]. > > I have tried to look at the source code (src/backend/access/heap/hio.c) to understand when the exclusive lock can be taken, but I could only read comments :) I have also examined FSM for this tables and their indexes and found that for most of them there are free pages but there are, for example, such cases: > > rpopdb_p0=# select count(*) from pg_freespace('rpop.rpop_uidl') where avail != 0; > count > -------- > 115953 > (1 row) > > rpopdb_p0=# select count(*) from pg_freespace('rpop.pk_rpop_uidl') where avail != 0; > count > ------- > 0 > (1 row) > > rpopdb_p0=# \dS+ rpop.rpop_uidl > Table "rpop.rpop_uidl" > Column | Type | Modifiers | Storage | Stats target | Description > --------+------------------------+-----------+----------+--------------+------------- > popid | bigint | not null | plain | | > uidl | character varying(200) | not null | extended | | > Indexes: > "pk_rpop_uidl" PRIMARY KEY, btree (popid, uidl) > Has OIDs: no > > rpopdb_p0=# > > > My questions are: > 1. Do we consume 100% cpu (in system) trying to get page from FSM? Or does it happen during exclusive lock acquiring? How can I dig it? > 2. How much space do we extend to the relation when we get exclusive lock on it? > 3. Why extended page is not visible for other backends? > 4. Is there any possibility of situation where backend A got exclusive lock on some relation to extend it. Then OS CPU scheduler made a context switch to backend B while backend B is waiting for exclusive lock on the same relation. And so on for many backends. > 5. (and the main question) what can I do to get rid of such situations? It is a production cluster and I do not have any ideas what to do with this situation :( Any help would be really appropriate. > > [1] http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/8bca3aa10906011613l8ac2423h8153bbd2513dc159@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [2] http://pgsql.performance.narkive.com/IrkPbl3f/postgresql-9-2-3-performance-problem-caused-exclusive-locks > [3] http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/50A2C93E.9070607@xxxxxxxxxx > [4] http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAL_0b1sypYeOyNkYNV95nNV2d+4jXTug3HkKF6FahfW7Gvgb_Q@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [5] http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Bd40Vn6h > [6] http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Lock_dependency_information > [7 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=eGrtG524] > > -- > Vladimir > > > > > > > -- > Vladimir > > > > > > > -- > Да пребудет с вами сила... > http://simply.name > > > > > > > > > -- > Vladimir > > > > > > > -- > Vladimir > > > > -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance