2012/12/27 Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@xxxxxxxxx>: > On Wednesday, December 26, 2012, Pavel Stehule wrote: >> >> 2012/12/27 Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@xxxxxxxxx>: >> > >> > More automated would be nice (i.e. one operation to make both the check >> > constraints and the trigger, so they can't get out of sync), but would >> > not >> > necessarily mean faster. >> > > <snip some benchmarking> > >> Native implementation should significantly effective evaluate >> >> expressions, mainly simple expressions - (this is significant for >> large number of partitions) and probably can do tuple forwarding >> faster than is heavy INSERT statement (is question if is possible >> decrease some overhead with more sophisticate syntax (by removing >> record expand). > > > If the main goal is to make it faster, I'd rather see all of plpgsql get > faster, rather than just a special case of partitioning triggers. For > example, right now a CASE <expression> statement with 100 branches is about > the same speed as an equivalent list of 100 elsif. So it seems to be doing > a linear search, when it could be doing a hash that should be a lot faster. a bottleneck is not in PL/pgSQL directly. It is in PostgreSQL expression executor. Personally I don't see any simple optimization - maybe some variant of JIT (for expression executor) should to improve performance. Any other optimization require significant redesign PL/pgSQL what is job what I don't would do now - personally, it is not work what I would to start by self, because using plpgsql triggers for partitioning is bad usage of plpgsql - and I believe so after native implementation any this work will be useless. Design some generic C trigger or really full implementation is better work. More, there is still expensive INSERT statement - forwarding tuple on C level should be significantly faster - because it don't be generic. > > >> >> >> So native implementation can carry significant speed up - mainly if we >> can distribute tuples without expression evaluating (evaluated by >> executor) > > > Making partitioning inserts native does open up other opportunities to make > it faster, and also to make it administratively easier; but do we want to > try to tackle both of those goals simultaneously? I think the > administrative aspects would come first. (But I doubt I will be the one to > implement either, so my vote doesn't count for much here.) Anybody who starts work on native implementation will have my support (it is feature that lot of customers needs). I have customers that can support development and I believe so there are others. Actually It needs only one tenacious man, because it is work for two years. Regards Pavel > > > Cheers, > > Jeff >> >> > -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance