Re: Does setval(nextval()+N) generate unique blocks of IDs?

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On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Craig James <cjames@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>>> I want to do this:
>>>
>>>>     select setval('object_id_seq', nextval('object_id_seq') + 1000, false);
>>>
>>>> Now suppose two processes do this simultaneously.  Maybe they're in
>>>> transactions, maybe they're not.  Are they guaranteed to get distinct
>>>> blocks of IDs?
>>>
>>> No, because the setval and the nextval are not indivisible.
>>>
>>>> Or is it possible that each will execute nextval() and
>>>> get N and N+1 respectively, and then do setval() to N+1000 and N+1001,
>>>> resulting in two overlapping blocks.
>>>
>>> Exactly.
>>>
>>>> If the answer is, "This won't work," then what's a better way to do this?
>>>
>>> AFAIK the only way at the moment is
>>>
>>> * acquire some advisory lock that by convention you use for this sequence
>>> * advance the sequence
>>> * release advisory lock
>>>
>>> There have been previous discussions of this type of problem, eg
>>> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2011-09/msg01031.php
>>> but the topic doesn't seem to have come up quite often enough to
>>> motivate anybody to do anything about it.  Your particular case could be
>>> handled by a variant of nextval() with a number-of-times-to-advance
>>> argument, but I'm not sure if that's enough for other scenarios.
>>
>> If the OP could live with large gaps in his sequence, he could set it
>> to advance by say 1000 at a time, and then use the numbers in that gap
>> freely.  Just a thought.
>
> Better yet set cache = 1000;  here's an example:
>
> create sequence a cache 1000;
> T1: select nextval('a');
> 1
> T2: select nextval('a');
> 1001
> T1: select nextval('a');
> 2
> T2: select nextval('a');
> 1002
>
> and so on.
>
> Now can he just select nextval('a'); 1000 times in a loop?  Or would
> he prefer another method.
>
> I guess I'm kind of wondering which problem he's trying to solve.

Made a sequence:
create sequence a;

then ran a one line
select nextval('a');
against it 1000 times from bash, i.e. the worst vase performance scenario:

time for ((i=0;i<1000;i++));do  psql -f t1 > /dev/null;done

real	1m1.978s
user	0m41.999s
sys	0m12.277s

then I ran it a singe time on a file with 1000 select nextvals:

time psql -f t1000 > /dev/null

real	0m0.486s
user	0m0.112s
sys	0m0.036s

Then I recreated sequence a:

create sequence a cache 1000;

and ran it again:

time psql -f t1000 > /dev/null

real	0m0.293s
user	0m0.120s
sys	0m0.024s

I'd imagine in a real programming oangua


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