Re: how much postgres can scale up?

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Ok, I think I found possible bottleneck.

The function that do some selects run really fast, more than 1.000
executions per seconds
But the whole thing slowdown when update of one record in a very very small
table happed
I test with insert instead of update and same behavior occur.

So, the only way to go up is turning off synchronous_commit, but it can be
dangerous.

Any, thanks a lot for your time.

Anibal

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De: pgsql-performance-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Greg Smith
Enviado el: viernes, 10 de junio de 2011 12:50 p.m.
Para: pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Asunto: Re:  how much postgres can scale up?

On 06/10/2011 07:29 AM, Anibal David Acosta wrote:
> When 1 client connected postgres do 180 execution per second With 2 
> clients connected postgres do 110 execution per second With 3 clients 
> connected postgres do 90 execution per second
>
> Finally with 6 connected clients postgres do 60 executions per second 
> (totally 360 executions per second)
>
> While testing, I monitor disk, memory and CPU and not found any overload.
>
> I know that with this information you can figure out somethigns, but 
> in normal conditions, Is normal the degradation of performance per 
> connection when connections are incremented?
> Or should I spect 180 in the first and something similar in the second 
> connection? Maybe 170?
>    

Let's reformat this the way most people present it:

clients tps
1    180
2    220
3    270
6    360

It's common for a single connection doing INSERT statements to hit a
bottleneck based on how fast the drives used can spin.  That's anywhere from
100 to 200 inserts/section, approximately, unless you have a battery-backed
write cache.  See http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Reliable_Writes for more
information.

However, multiple clients can commit at once when a backlog occurs.  So what
you'll normally see in this situation is that the rate goes up faster than
this as clients are added.  Here's a real sample, from a server that's only
physically capable of doing 120 commits/second on its
7200 RPM drive:

clients tps
1     107
2     109
3     163
4     216
5     271
6     325
8     432
10     530
15     695

This is how it's supposed to scale even on basic hardware  You didn't
explore this far enough to really know how well your scaling is working here
though.  Since commit rates are limited by disk spin in this situation, the
situation for 1 to 5 clients is not really representative of how a large
number of clients will end up working.  As already mentioning, turning off
synchronous_commit should give you an interesting alternate set of numbers.

It's also possible there may be something wrong with whatever client logic
you are using here.  Something about the way you've written it may be
acquiring a lock that blocks other clients from executing efficiently for
example.  I'd suggest turning on log_lock_waits and setting deadlock_timeout
to a small number, which should show you some extra logging in situations
where people are waiting for locks.  Running some queries to look at the
lock data such as the examples at
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Lock_Monitoring might be helpful too.

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