Re: Linux: more cores = less concurrency.

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Kevin Grittner wrote:
Glyn Astill <glynastill@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Results from Greg Smiths stream_scaling test are here:

http://www.privatepaste.com/4338aa1196
Well, that pretty much clinches it. Your RAM access tops out at 16
processors.  It appears that your processors are spending most of
their time waiting for and contending for the RAM bus.

I've pulled Glyn's results into https://github.com/gregs1104/stream-scaling so they're easy to compare against similar processors, his system is the one labled 4 X X7550. I'm hearing this same story from multiple people lately: these 32+ core servers bottleneck on aggregate memory speed with running PostgreSQL long before the CPUs are fully utilized. This server is close to maximum memory utilization at 8 cores, and the small increase in gross throughput above that doesn't seem to be making up for the loss in L1 and L2 thrashing from trying to run more. These systems with many cores can only be used fully if you have a program that can work efficiency some of the time with just local CPU resources. That's very rarely the case for a database that's moving 8K pages, tuple caches, and other forms of working memory around all the time.


I have gotten machines in where moving a jumper, flipping a DIP
switch, or changing BIOS options from the default made a big
difference.  I'd be looking at the manuals for my motherboard and
BIOS right now to see what options there might be to improve that

I already forwarded Glyn a good article about tuning these Dell BIOSs in particular from an interesting blog series others here might like too:

http://bleything.net/articles/postgresql-benchmarking-memory.html

Ben Bleything is doing a very thorough walk-through of server hardware validation, and as is often the case he's already found one major problem with the vendor config he had to fix to get expected results.

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