Greg, 1st off, thanx for your great book, and i really hope i find the time to read it thoroughly. (since i am still stuck somewhere in the middle of "Administration Cookbook" lol!) Well, people, speaking from the point of the occasional poster and frequent lurker i can see that smth is going a little bit out of hand in the lists. I remember my own thread 1-2 weeks ago about NOT IN working much better in 8.3 than 9.0, how much i was trying to convince people that it was not FreeBSD related, nor other setting related, trying to convince mladen that i was not cheating with the explain analyze i posted, trying to answer politely to Tom who was asking me to post smth that i had already posted 4-5 times till then, and i can feel the agony of certain members here. Before i moved the thread from -admin over to -performance i had certain issues at my home's FreeBSD mail server. Thank God, some reply i wrote one late night on -admin didn't make it to the list. Anyways, that's open source. Great products, access to source and knowledge at a negligible cost come with a price. So here is my advice to people in similar situations (me mainly!) : take a deep breath, dont hit the send button unless you are 100% certain you have smth new/positive to say, take some time to do more homework from your part, even try to read/hack the source, etc... If this is not possible, then its better to seek for alternatives rather than turning angry. just my 3 euros! ÎÏÎÏ Friday 04 February 2011 16:27:55 Î/Î Greg Smith ÎÎÏÎÏÎ: > Mladen Gogala wrote: > > I am even inclined to believe that deep down under the hood, this > > fatwa has an ulterior motive, which disgusts me deeply. With hints, > > there would be far fewer consulting gigs. > > Now you're just being rude. Given that you have direct access to the > developers of the software, for free, on these mailing lists, the main > reason there is consulting work anyway is because some companies can't > publish their queries or data publicly. All of us doing PostgreSQL > consulting regularly take those confidental reports and turn them into > feedback to improve the core software. That is what our clients want, > too: a better PostgreSQL capable of handling their problem, not just a > hacked up application that works today, but will break later once data > volume or distribution changes. > > You really just don't get how open-source development works at all if > you think money is involved in why people have their respective > technical opinions on controversial subjects. Try and hire the > sometimes leader of this particular "fatwa", Tom Lane, for a consulting > gig if you think that's where his motivation lies. I would love to have > a recording of *that* phone call. > > -- > Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Baltimore, MD > PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support www.2ndQuadrant.us > "PostgreSQL 9.0 High Performance": http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/books > > -- Achilleas Mantzios -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance