On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Jon Nelson <jnelson+pgsql@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> The most recent experiment shows me that, unless I create whatever >> indexes I would like to see used *before* the large (first) update, >> then they just don't get used. At all. > > You're making a whole lot of assertions here that don't square with > usual experience. ÂI think there is some detail about what you're > doing that affects the outcome, but since you haven't shown a concrete > example, it's pretty hard to guess what the critical detail is. First, let me supply all of the changed (from the default) params: default_statistics_target = 500 maintenance_work_mem = 240MB work_mem = 256MB effective_cache_size = 1GB checkpoint_segments = 128 shared_buffers = 1GB max_connections = 30 wal_buffers = 64MB shared_preload_libraries = 'auto_explain' The machine is a laptop with 4GB of RAM running my desktop. Kernel is 2.6.36, filesystem is ext4 (for data) and ext2 (for WAL logs). The disk is a really real disk, not an SSD. The sequence goes exactly like this: BEGIN; CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE (20 columns, mostly text, a few int). COPY (approx 8 million rows, ~900 MB)[1] UPDATE (2.8 million of the rows) UPDATE (7 rows) UPDATE (250 rows) UPDATE (3500 rows) UPDATE (3100 rows) a bunch of UPDATE (1 row) ... Experimentally, I noticed that performance was not especially great. So, I added some indexes (three indexes on one column each). One index is UNIQUE. The first UPDATE can't use any of the indexes. The rest should be able to. In my experiments, I found that: If I place the index creation *before* the copy, the indexes are used. If I place the index creation *after* the copy but before first UPDATE, the indexes are used. If I place the index creation at any point after the first UPDATE, regardless of whether ANALYZE is run, the indexes are not used (at least, according to auto_analyze). Does that help? [1] I've been saying 10 million. It's really more like 8 million. -- Jon -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance
