On 12/11/09 1:57 PM, "Scott Marlowe" <scott.marlowe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > This is my big issue. dropping / creating databases for unit tests is > overkill. Running any DDL at all for a unit test seems wrong to me > too. Insert a row if you need it, MAYBE. Unit tests should work with > a test database that HAS the structure and database already in place. > > What happens if your unit tests get lose in production and drop a > database, or a table. Not good. > Production should not have a db with the same username/pw combination as dev boxes and unit tests . . . Unfortunately, unit-like (often more than a 'unit') tests can't always rely on a test db being already set up. If one leaves any cruft around, it might break later tests later on non-deterministically. Automated tests that insert data are absolutely required somewhere if the application inserts data. The best way to do this in postgres is to create a template database from scratch with whatever DDL is needed at the start of the run, and then create and drop db's as copies of that template per test or test suite. So no, its not overkill at all IMO. I do wish to avoid it, and ideally all tests clean up after themselves, but in practice this does not happen and results in hard to track down issues where test X fails because of something that any one of tests A to W did (all of which pass), often wasting time of the most valuable developers -- those who know the majority of the system well enough to track down such issues across the whole system. One thing to consider, is putting this temp database in a RAMFS, or ramdisk since postgres does a lot of file creates and fsyncs when cloning a db from a template. For almost all such test db's the actual data is small, but the # of tables is large. > -- > Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) > To make changes to your subscription: > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance > -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance