Re: big select is resulting in a large amount of disk writing by kjournald

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Joseph S wrote:
Greg Smith wrote:
Joseph S wrote:
So I run "select count(*) from large_table" and I see in xosview a solid block of write activity. Runtime is 28125.644 ms for the first run. The second run does not show a block of write activity and takes 3327.441 ms
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Hint_Bits


Hmm. A large select results in a lot of writes? This seems broken. And if we are setting these hint bits then what do we need VACUUM for? Is there any way to tune this behavior? Is there any way to get stats on how many rows/pages would need hint bits set?
Basically, the idea is that if you're pulling a page in for something else that requires you to compute the hint bits, just do it now so VACUUM doesn't have to later, while you're in there anyway. Why make VACUUM do the work later if you're doing part of it now anyway? If you reorganize your test to VACUUM first *before* running the "select (*) from...", you'll discover the writes during SELECT go away. You're running into the worst-case behavior. For example, if you inserted a bunch of things more slowly, you might discover that autovacuum would do this cleanup before you even got to looking at the data.

There's no tuning for the behavior beyond making autovacuum more aggressive (to improve odds it will get there first), and no visibility into what's happening either. And cranking up autovacuum has its own downsides. This situation shows up a lot when you're benchmarking things, but not as much in the real world, so it's hard to justify improving.

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