On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Alan McKay <alan.mckay@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hey folks, > > CentOS / PostgreSQL shop over here. > > I'm hitting 3 of my favorite lists with this, so here's hoping that > the BCC trick is the right way to do it :-) I added pgsql-performance back in in my reply so we can share with the rest of the class. > We've just discovered thanks to a new Munin plugin > http://blogs.amd.co.at/robe/2008/12/graphing-linux-disk-io-statistics-with-munin.html > that our production DB is completely maxing out in I/O for about a 3 > hour stretch from 6am til 9am > This is "device utilization" as per the last graph at the above link. What does vmstat, sar, or top have to say about it? If you're at 100% IO Wait, then yeah, your disk subsystem is your bottleneck. > Our system > IBM 3650 - quad 2Ghz e5405 Xeon > 8K SAS RAID Controller Does this RAID controller have a battery backed cache on it? > 6 x 300G 15K/RPM SAS Drives > /dev/sda - 2 drives configured as a RAID 1 for 300G for the OS > /dev/sdb - 3 drives configured as RAID5 for 600G for the DB > 1 drive as a global hot spare > > /dev/sdb is the one that is maxing out. Yeah, with RAID-5 that's not surprising. Especially if you've got even a decent / small percentage of writes in the mix, RAID-5 is gonna be pretty slow. > We need to have a very serious look at fixing this situation. But we > don't have the money to be experimenting with solutions that won't > solve our problem. And our budget is fairly limited. > > Is there a public library somewhere of disk subsystems and their > performance figures? Done with some semblance of a standard > benchmark? Not that I know of, and if there is, I'm as eager as you to find it. This mailing list's archives are as close as I've come to finding it. > One benchmark I am partial to is this one : > http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PgCon_2009/Greg_Smith_Hardware_Benchmarking_notes#dd_test > > One thing I am thinking of in the immediate term is taking the RAID5 + > hot spare and converting it to RAID10 with the same amount of storage. > Will that perform much better? Almost certainly. > In general we are planning to move away from RAID5 toward RAID10. > > We also have on order an external IBM array (don't have the exact name > on hand but model number was 3000) with 12 drive bays. We ordered it > with just 4 x SATAII drives, and were going to put it on a different > system as a RAID10. These are just 7200 RPM drives - the goal was > cheaper storage because the SAS drives are about twice as much per > drive, and it is only a 300G drive versus the 1T SATA2 drives. IIRC > the SATA2 drives are about $200 each and the SAS 300G drives about > $500 each. > So I have 2 thoughts with this 12 disk array. 1 is to fill it up > with 12 x cheap SATA2 drives and hope that even though the spin-rate > is a lot slower, that the fact that it has more drives will make it > perform better. But somehow I am doubtful about that. The other > thought is to bite the bullet and fill it up with 300G SAS drives. I'd give the SATA drives a try. If they aren't fast enough, then everybody in the office gets a free / cheap drive upgrade in their desktop machine. More drives == faster RAID-10 up to the point you saturate your controller / IO bus on your machine -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance