Re: High CPU Utilization

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On 3/24/09 4:16 PM, "Scott Marlowe" <scott.marlowe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Ron <rjpeace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> At 02:47 PM 3/24/2009, Joe Uhl wrote:
>> 
>>> Turns out we may have an opportunity to purchase a new database server
>>> with this increased load.  Seems that the best route, based on feedback to
>>> this thread, is to go whitebox, get quad opterons, and get a very good disk
>>> controller.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone recommend a whitebox vendor?
>> 
>> I'll 2nd the Aberdeen recommendation.  I'll add Pogolinux to that list as
>> well.
>> 
>> 
>>> Is there a current controller anyone on this list has experience with that
>>> they could recommend?
>> 
>> The 2 best performing RAID controller vendors at this time are AMCC (AKA
>> 3Ware) and Areca.
>> In general, the 8+ port Areca's with their BB cache maxed outperform every
>> other controller available.

I personally have had rather bad performance experiences with 3Ware
9550/9650 SATA cards.  I have no experience with the AMCC SAS stuff though.
Adaptec demolished the 9650 on arrays larger than 4 drives, and Areca will
do better at the very high end.

However, if CPU is the issue for this particular case, then the RAID
controller details are less significant.

I don't know how much data you have, but don't forget the option of SSDs, or
a mix of hard drives and SSDs for different data.  Ideally, you would want
the OS to just extend its pagecache onto a SSD, but only OpenSolaris can do
that right now and it is rather new (needs to be persistent across reboots).

http://blogs.sun.com/brendan/entry/test
http://blogs.sun.com/brendan/entry/l2arc_screenshots
 

>> 
>> 
>>> This will be a bigger purchase so will be doing research and benchmarking
>>> but any general pointers to a vendor/controller greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Be =very= careful to thoroughly bench both the AMD and Intel CPU options.
>>  It is far from clear which is the better purchase.
> 
> My anecdotal experience has been that the Opterons stay afloat longer
> as load increases, but I haven't had machines with similar enough
> hardware to really test that.
> 

One may want to note that Intel's next generation servers are due out within
45 days from what I can sense ('Q2' traditionally means ~April 1 for Intel
when on time).  These should be a rather significant bump for a database as
they adopt the AMD / Alpha style memory-controller-on-CPU architecture and
add a lot of cache.  Other relevant improvements:  increased performance on
compare-and-swap operations, the return of hyper threading, and ridiculous
memory bandwidth per CPU (3 DDR3 memory channels per CPU).

>> I'd be very interested to see the results of your research and benchmarks
>> posted here on pgsql-performance.
> 
> Me too.  I'm gonna spend some time this summer benchmarking and tuning
> the database servers that I pretty much had to burn in and put in
> production this year due to time pressures.
> 
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