Rex Mabry wrote: > Try this query for looking at queries. Thanks so much for your reply. > SELECT procpid, usename , (now() - query_start) as age, query_start, l.mode, l.granted > FROM pg_stat_activity a LEFT OUTER JOIN pg_locks l ON (a.procpid = l.pid) > LEFT OUTER JOIN pg_class c ON (l.relation = c.oid) > WHERE current_query NOT IN ('<IDLE>') > and a.usename <> 'postgres' > ORDER BY pid; I tried it and the output are as follows: - - - - mydb=> SELECT procpid, usename , (now() - query_start) as age, query_start, l.mode, l.granted FROM pg_stat_activity a LEFT UTER JOIN pg_locks l ON (a.procpid = l.pid) LEFT OUTER JOIN pg_class c N (l.relation = c.oid) WHERE current_query NOT IN ('<IDLE>') and .usename <> 'postgres' ORDER BY pid; procpid | usename | age | query_start | mode | granted ---------+----------+-----+-------------+-----------------+--------- 4134 | myname | | | AccessShareLock | t 4134 |myname | | | AccessShareLock | t 4134 | myname | | | ExclusiveLock | t 4134 | myname | | | AccessShareLock | t 4134 | mynamei | | | AccessShareLock | t 4134 | myname | | | AccessShareLock | t 4134 | myname | | | AccessShareLock | t (7 rows) - - - - Are these 7 rows the long-running transactions? If they are, what should we do with them? just killing the processes? #It seems that the 7 rows are caused by logining db and executing the select clause. and they are not long-running transactions, aren't they? because the procpid changes when I logout and login again. Thanks Duan > --- On Thu, 9/4/08, Duan Ligong <duanlg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > From: Duan Ligong <duanlg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [PERFORM] too many clog files > To: "Greg Smith" <gsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 9:58 PM > > Thanks for your reply. > > Greg wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Duan Ligong wrote: > > > - Does Vacuum delete the old clog files? > > > > Yes, if those transactions are all done. One possibility here is that > > you've got some really long-running transaction floating around that > is > > keeping normal clog cleanup from happening. Take a look at the output > > from "select * from pg_stat_activity" and see if there are any > really old > > transactions floating around. > > Well, we could not wait so long and just moved the old clog files. > The postgresql system is running well. > But now the size of pg_clog has exceeded 50MB and there > are 457 clog files. > - - - - > [root@set19:AN0101 hydragui]# du -sh pgdata/pg_clog > 117M pgdata/pg_clog > - - - - > > My question is: > - How to determine whether there is a long-running transactions > or not based on the output of "select * from pg_stat_activity"? > It seems there is not the start time of transactions. > - How should we deal with it if there is a long-running transactin? > Can we do something to avoid long-running transactions? > > The following is the output of "select * from pg_stat_activity". > #It seems there are no query_start time information. > - - - - > xxxdb=> select * from pg_stat_activity; > datid | datname | procpid | usesysid | usename | current_query | > query_start > -------+-------------+---------+----------+----------+---------------+------------- > 92406 | xxxdb | 17856 | 100 | myname | | > 92406 | xxxdb | 31052 | 100 | myname | | > (2 rows) > - - - - > After about 6minutes, I execute it again and the output is > - - - - > xxxdb=> select * from pg_stat_activity; > datid | datname | procpid | usesysid | usename | current_query | > query_start > -------+-------------+---------+----------+----------+---------------+------------- > 92406 | xxxdb | 5060 | 100 |myname | | > 92406 | xxxdb | 5626 | 100 |myname | | > (2 rows) > > - - - - > #my postgresql version is 8.1 > > > > > - Can we controll the maximum number of the clog files? > > > > The reference Alvaro suggested at > > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/interactive/routine-vacuuming.html#VACUUM-FOR-WRAPAROUND > > > goes over that. If you reduce autovacuum_freeze_max_age, that reduces the > > > expected maximum size of the clog files. "The default, 200 million > > transactions, translates to about 50MB of pg_clog storage." If > you've got > > significantly more than 50MB of files in there, normally that means that > > either you're not running vacuum to clean things up usefully, or > there's > > an old open transaction still floating around. > > > > > - When, or in what case is a new clog file produced? > > > > Every 32K transactions. See http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Hint_Bits for > > > some clarification about what the clog files actually do. I recently > > collected some notes from this list and from the source code README files > > to give a high-level view there of what actually goes on under the hood in > > > this area. > > It seems that one transaction occupies 2bit and 32K transactions should > occupy 8K, which is the size of one page. > The size of each clog file is 256KB. > Is there other information which is in clog files except the Hint_bits? > And Do the other information and Hint_bit of 32K transactions occupy > 256KB? > > > > - Is there a mechanism that the clog files are recycled? If there is > , > > > what is the mechanism? > > > > The old ones should get wiped out by vacuum's freezing mechanism. > > Does Wiping out clog files has something to do with the configuration > except Vacuum? Does we have to set some parameter to enable > the function of Vacuum's wipping out old clog files? > > The following is my postgresql.conf file: > - - - - > tcpip_socket = true > max_connections = 500 > port = 5432 > shared_buffers = 1000 > syslog = 2 > log_min_messages = fatal > - - - - > #my postgresql database is very small. > > Thanks > Duan > > > -- > > * Greg Smith gsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.gregsmith.com Baltimore, MD > > > > -- > > Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) > > To make changes to your subscription: > > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance > > > > > -- > Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) > To make changes to your subscription: > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance > > > >