On Thu, 1 May 2008 02:55:10 -0400 (EDT) Greg Smith <gsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 1 May 2008, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > > > Whenever I see one of those I simply blackhole the server sending them. > > Ah, the ever popular vigilante spam method. What if the message is coming > from, say, gmail.com, and it's getting routed so that you're not sure > which account is originating it? Do you blackhole everybody on *that* > server just because there's one idiot? Well, I actually do block gmail groups on another list that is gatewayed to a newsgroup due to the volume of spam that originates from there but in this case my experience has been that it is done by a service. For example, I reject all email from spamarrest.com. There is nothing I want to see from them. > This is the same problem on a smaller scale. It's not clear which account > is reponsible, and I believe I saw that there are other people using the > same ISP who also subscribe to the list. That's why Marc is testing who > the guilty party is rather than unsubscribing everyone there. Of course. If someone is running it on a server independent of the ISP that's a different story. However, it is pretty hard to run that code on most ISPs without the cooperation of the ISP. That's why there are companies like SpamArrest. People who run their own server and are in a position to do this themself tend to also be smart enough to understand why it is a bad idea. On the other hand, this type of thing is no different than spam and in this day and age every ISP, no matter how big, has a responsibility to deal with spammers on their own system and if they don't they deserve to be blocked just like any other spam-friendly system. The fact that Marc has to run this test and does not immediately know who the guilty party is suggests to me that they are using a service. I never saw the offending message myself so perhaps it is coming from SpamArrest and I just rejected the email on my SMTP server. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain <darcy@xxxxxxxxx> | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/ | and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082) (eNTP) | what's for dinner.
