Re: mis-estimate in nested query causes slow runtimes

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On 2/18/08, Chris Kratz <chris.kratz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2/11/08, Tom Lane <tgl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Chris Kratz <chris.kratz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> The first frustration is that I can't get the transaction details scan
> to get any more accurate.  It thinks it will find 1407 records,
> instead it finds 20,153.  Then for whatever reason it thinks that a
> join between 1 record and 1407 records will return 1 record.  This is
> mainly what I can't understand.  Why does it think it will only get
> one record in response when it's a left join?

I don't see any left join there ...

> PG 8.2.4 on Linux kernel 2.6.9 x64

The first thing you should do is update to 8.2.6; we've fixed a fair
number of problems since then that were fallout from the outer-join
planning rewrite in 8.2.

If it still doesn't work very well, please post the pg_stats rows for
the join columns involved (idatrndtl.ida_trans_match_source_id and
mtchsrcprj3.id).  (You do have up-to-date ANALYZE stats for both
of those tables, right?)

                        regards, tom lane

Hello Tom,

 
We've updated to Postgres 8.2.6 on our production database over the weekend.  Unfortunately, the estimates on this query are no better after the upgrade.  Here is just the part of the estimate that is incorrect.  (2 vs 20153)

 
->  Nested Loop  (cost=12.68..165.69 rows=2 width=38) (actual time=0.089..29.792 rows=20153 loops=1)
      ->  Hash Join  (cost=12.68..24.37 rows=1 width=24) (actual time=0.064..0.135 rows=1 loops=1)
            Hash Cond: (mtchsrcprj3.funding_source_id = mtchsrcprjfs3.nameid)
            ->  Seq Scan on project mtchsrcprj3  (cost=0.00..11.22 rows=122 width=8) (actual time=0.002..0.053 rows=122 loops=1)
            ->  Hash  (cost=12.61..12.61 rows=6 width=24) (actual time=0.017..0.017 rows=1 loops=1)
                  ->  Index Scan using name_float_lfm_idx on namemaster mtchsrcprjfs3  (cost=0.00..12.61 rows=6 width=24) (actual time=0.012..0.013 rows=1 loops=1)
                        Index Cond: (name_float_lfm = 'DWS'::text)
      ->  Index Scan using transaction_details_ida_trans_match_source_id on transaction_details idatrndtl  (cost=0.00..123.72 rows=1408 width=22) (actual time=0.023..17.128 rows=20153 loops=1)

 
(Entire explain analyze posted earlier in thread)

 
Total Query runtime: 35309.298 ms
Same w/ enable_nestloop off: 761.715 ms

 
I've tried the stats up to 1000 on both columns which causes no differences.  Currently the stats are at 100.

 
test=# alter table transaction_details alter column ida_trans_match_source_id set statistics 100;
ALTER TABLE
test=# analyze transaction_details;
ANALYZE
test=# alter table project alter column id set statistics 100;
ALTER TABLE
test=# analyze project;
ANALYZE

 
Stats rows in pg_stats for these two columns:

 
test=# select * from pg_stats where tablename = 'transaction_details' and attname='ida_trans_match_source_id';
 schemaname |      tablename      |          attname          | null_frac | avg_width | n_distinct |                   most_common_vals                   |                                                 most_common_freqs                                                 |                                                                                                        histogram_bounds                                                                                                         | correlation 
------------+---------------------+---------------------------+-----------+-----------+------------+------------------------------------------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------
 public     | transaction_details | ida_trans_match_source_id |  0.479533 |         4 |         69 | {818,832,930,937,923,812,931,836,837,829,830,14,809} | {0.1024,0.0991333,0.0408,0.0232,0.0221,0.0219,0.0207,0.0188667,0.0186667,0.0177667,0.0176667,0.0130333,0.0118667} | {6,802,813,813,814,814,815,815,816,816,817,817,827,827,833,835,835,838,838,838,838,838,843,920,921,921,921,921,922,922,924,924,924,924,925,926,926,928,928,934,936,936,936,936,936,938,939,941,941,955,965,967,968,968,974,980} |    0.178655
(1 row)

 
test=# select * from pg_stats where tablename = 'project' and attname='id';
 schemaname | tablename | attname | null_frac | avg_width | n_distinct | most_common_vals | most_common_freqs |                                                                                                                                                                                      histogram_bounds                                                                                                                                                                                      | correlation 
------------+-----------+---------+-----------+-----------+------------+------------------+-------------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------
 public     | project   | id      |         0 |         4 |         -1 |                  |                   | {6,7,8,12,13,15,17,18,19,24,26,27,28,29,30,32,33,34,35,36,41,42,71,72,802,803,809,812,813,815,816,817,818,822,824,825,826,827,828,830,831,832,833,835,836,837,838,839,841,842,843,844,845,847,848,849,920,921,923,924,925,926,928,929,930,931,932,934,935,936,937,938,940,941,942,946,947,949,950,951,952,954,955,956,957,958,960,961,962,963,964,966,967,968,969,970,973,974,975,977,980} |    0.937228
(1 row)

 
PG 8.2.6 on linux x86_64, 8G ram, 4x15k->db, 2x10k-> OS & WAL 

 
postgresql.conf settings of note:

 
shared_buffers = 1024MB
work_mem = 246MB
maintenance_work_mem = 256MB
random_page_cost = 1.75
effective_cache_size=2048MB

 
Any ideas how we can get the query to run faster?

 
Thanks,

 
-Chris

 

 

 
Tom, any further ideas?  I appreciate your help so far, but we are still stuck after the update to 8.2.6.  Our only real solution at this point is to add code to our application that turns off nested loops for specific reports since the planner isn't getting correct estimates.  I posted the pg_stat rows as requested above.

Thanks,

-Chris

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