On Dec 20, 2007 3:52 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 03:35:42PM -0500, Merlin Moncure wrote: > > > > Key management is an issue but easily solved. Uber simple solution is > > to create a designated table holding the key(s) and use classic > > permissions to guard it. > > Any security expert worth the title would point and laugh at that > suggestion. If the idea is that the contents have to be encrypted to > protect them, then it is just not acceptable to have the encryption keys > online. That's the sort of "security" that inevitably causes programs to > get a reputation for ill-thought-out protections. right, right, thanks for the lecture. I am aware of various issues with key management. I said 'simple' not 'good'. there are many stronger things, like forcing the key to be passed in for each invocation, hmac, etc. etc. I am not making a proposal here and you don't have to denigrate my broad suggestion on a technical detail which is quite distracting from the real issue at hand, btw. I was just suggesting something easy to stop casual browsing. If you want to talk specifics, we can talk specifics... merlin ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match