select max(field) from table much faster with a group by clause?

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Hi,

I have a table "login" with approx 600,000 tuples, a person table with approx 100000 tuples.

When running
select max("when") from login where userid='userid'

it takes a second or two, but when adding "group by userid" the planner decides on using another plan, and it gets *much* faster. See example below.

Number of tuples per user varies from zero to a couple of thousands. It seems to slower when there are no tuples as all, but it is always slow.

This is only for max() and min(). For count(), the plan is the same, it always uses "Aggregate".

Any ideas about this? Do we need to add "group by userid" to our code base to optimize, or is there another way? Updating postgresql to 8.2 is a long term option, but I'd like a short term option as well...

Regards,
Palle


pp=# select version();
                                            version
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PostgreSQL 8.1.8 on amd64-portbld-freebsd6.1, compiled by GCC cc (GCC) 3.4.4 [FreeBSD] 20050518
(1 row)

Time: 0,530 ms
pp=# explain analyze SELECT max("when") FROM login WHERE userid='girgen' ;
QUERY PLAN
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Result (cost=323.80..323.81 rows=1 width=0) (actual time=3478.781..3478.785 rows=1 loops=1)
  InitPlan
-> Limit (cost=0.00..323.80 rows=1 width=8) (actual time=3478.768..3478.768 rows=0 loops=1) -> Index Scan Backward using login_when_idx on "login" (cost=0.00..131461.90 rows=406 width=8) (actual time=3478.759..3478.759 rows=0 loops=1) Filter: (("when" IS NOT NULL) AND (userid = 'sarah.gilliam1'::text))
Total runtime: 3478.868 ms
(6 rows)

Time: 3480,442 ms
pp=# explain analyze SELECT max("when") FROM login WHERE userid='girgen' group by userid;
                                                            QUERY PLAN
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
GroupAggregate (cost=0.00..648.44 rows=1 width=25) (actual time=0.191..0.191 rows=0 loops=1) -> Index Scan using login_userid_idx on "login" (cost=0.00..646.40 rows=406 width=25) (actual time=0.183..0.183 rows=0 loops=1)
        Index Cond: (userid = 'sarah.gilliam1'::text)
Total runtime: 0.243 ms
(4 rows)

Time: 0,938 ms
pp=# \d login
                 Table "public.login"
Column |           Type           |     Modifiers
--------+--------------------------+--------------------
userid | text                     |
kursid | integer                  |
when   | timestamp with time zone |
mode   | text                     | default 'pm'::text
Indexes:
   "login_kurs_user_idx" btree (kursid, userid)
   "login_userid_idx" btree (userid)
   "login_when_idx" btree ("when")
Foreign-key constraints:
"pp_fk1" FOREIGN KEY (userid) REFERENCES person(userid) ON UPDATE CASCADE ON DELETE CASCADE "pp_fk2" FOREIGN KEY (kursid) REFERENCES course(id) ON UPDATE CASCADE ON DELETE CASCADE



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