Re: PITR Backups

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Here is an example. Most of the snap shots worked fine, but I did get this once:

Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [9-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTLOG: redo done at 71/99870670 Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [10-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28905 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [11-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 13626 of relation 1663/16384/76716 did not exist Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [12-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28904 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [13-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 26711 of relation 1663/16384/76719 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [14-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28900 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [15-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 3535208 of relation 1663/16384/33190 did not exist Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [16-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28917 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [17-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 3535207 of relation 1663/16384/33190 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [18-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28916 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [19-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28911 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [20-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 26708 of relation 1663/16384/76719 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [21-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28914 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [22-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28909 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [23-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28908 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [24-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28913 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [25-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 26712 of relation 1663/16384/76719 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [26-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28918 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [27-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28912 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [28-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 3535209 of relation 1663/16384/33190 did not exist Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [29-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28907 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [30-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28906 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [31-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 26713 of relation 1663/16384/76719 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [32-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 17306 of relation 1663/16384/76710 did not exist Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [33-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 26706 of relation 1663/16384/76719 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [34-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 800226 of relation 1663/16384/33204 did not exist Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [35-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28915 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [36-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 26710 of relation 1663/16384/76719 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [37-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28903 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [38-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28902 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [39-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTWARNING: page 28910 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3506]: [40-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTPANIC: WAL contains references to invalid pages Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3503]: [1-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTLOG: startup process (PID 3506) was terminated by signal 6 Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3503]: [2-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTLOG: aborting startup due to startup process failure Jun 21 00:39:43 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3505]: [1-1] 2007-06-21 00:39:43 PDTLOG: logger shutting down Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [1-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTLOG: database system was interrupted while in recovery at 2007-06-21 00:36:40 PDT Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [1-2] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTHINT: This probably means that some data is corrupted and you will have to use the last backup for
Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [1-3]  recovery.
Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [2-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTLOG: checkpoint record is at 71/9881E928 Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [3-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTLOG: redo record is at 71/986BF148; undo record is at 0/0; shutdown FALSE Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [4-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTLOG: next transaction ID: 0/2871389429; next OID: 83795 Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [5-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTLOG: next MultiXactId: 1; next MultiXactOffset: 0 Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [6-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTLOG: database system was not properly shut down; automatic recovery in progress Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [7-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTLOG: redo starts at 71/986BF148 Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [8-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTLOG: record with zero length at 71/998706A8 Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [9-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTLOG: redo done at 71/99870670 Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [10-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28905 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [11-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 13626 of relation 1663/16384/76716 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [12-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28904 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [13-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 26711 of relation 1663/16384/76719 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [14-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28900 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [15-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 3535208 of relation 1663/16384/33190 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [16-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28917 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [17-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 3535207 of relation 1663/16384/33190 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [18-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28916 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [19-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28911 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [20-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 26708 of relation 1663/16384/76719 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [21-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28914 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [22-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28909 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [23-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28908 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [24-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28913 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [25-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 26712 of relation 1663/16384/76719 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [26-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28918 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [27-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28912 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [28-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 3535209 of relation 1663/16384/33190 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [29-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28907 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [30-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28906 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [31-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 26713 of relation 1663/16384/76719 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [32-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 17306 of relation 1663/16384/76710 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [33-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 26706 of relation 1663/16384/76719 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [34-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 800226 of relation 1663/16384/33204 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [35-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28915 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [36-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 26710 of relation 1663/16384/76719 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [37-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28903 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [38-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28902 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [39-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTWARNING: page 28910 of relation 1663/16384/76718 was uninitialized Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3757]: [40-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTPANIC: WAL contains references to invalid pages Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3755]: [1-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTLOG: startup process (PID 3757) was terminated by signal 6 Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3755]: [2-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTLOG: aborting startup due to startup process failure Jun 21 00:40:39 sfmedstorageha001 postgres[3756]: [1-1] 2007-06-21 00:40:39 PDTLOG: logger shutting down


On Jun 22, 2007, at 12:30 AM, Toru SHIMOGAKI wrote:


Steve Atkins wrote:

- When we take a PITR base backup with hardware level snapshot operation (not filesystem level) which a lot of storage vender provide, the backup data can be corrupted as Dan said. During recovery we can't even read it,
  especially if meta-data was corrupted.
I can't see any explanation for how this could happen, other
than your hardware vendor is lying about snapshot ability.

All of the hardware vendors I asked always said:

"The hardware level snapshot has nothing to do with filesystem condition and of course with what data has been written from operating system chache to the hard disk platter. It just copies byte data on storage to the other volume.

So, if any data is written during taking snapshot, we can't assurance data correctness *strictly* .

In Oracle, no table data is written between BEGIN BACKUP and END BACKUP, and it is not a problem REDO is written..."

I'd like to know the correct information if the explanation has any mistakes, or a good way to avoid the probrem.

I think there are users who want to migrate Oracle to PostgreSQL but can't because of the problem as above.


Best regards,

--
Toru SHIMOGAKI<shimogaki.toru@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
NTT Open Source Software Center


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