Re: Performance query about large tables, lots of concurrent access

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Karl Wright wrote:
Hi,

I have an application which really exercises the performance of postgresql in a major way, and I am running into a performance bottleneck with Postgresql 8.1 that I do not yet understand.

Here are the details:

- There is a primary table, with some secondary tables
- The principle transaction consists of a "SELECT...FOR UPDATE", followed by either an INSERT or an UPDATE on the primary table - INSERTs, DELETEs, and UPDATEs may occur on the secondary table depending on what happens with the primary table, for any given transaction. The secondary table has about 10x the number of rows as the primary. - All operations are carefully chosen so that highly discriminatory indexes are used to locate the record(s) in question. The execution plans show INDEX SCAN operations being done in all cases. - At any given time, there are up to 100 of these operations going on at once against the same database.

What I am seeing:

- In postgresql 7.4, the table activity seems to be gated by locks, and runs rather slowly except when the sizes of the tables are small. - In postgresql 8.1, locks do not seem to be an issue, and the activity runs about 10x faster than for postgresql 7.4. - For EITHER database version, the scaling behavior is not the log(n) behavior I'd expect (where n is the number of rows in the table), but much more like linear performance. That is, as the tables grow, performance drops off precipitously. For a primary table size up to 100,000 rows or so, I get somewhere around 700 transactions per minute, on average. Between 100,000 and 1,000,000 rows I got some 150 transactions per minute. At about 1,500,000 rows I get about 40 transactions per minute. - Access to a row in the secondary table (which right now has 13,000,000 rows in it) via an index that has extremely good discriminatory ability on a busy machine takes about 90 seconds elapsed time at the moment - which I feel is pretty high.

I tried increasing the shared_buffers parameter to see if it had any impact on overall throughput. It was moderately helpful going from the small default value up to 8192, but less helpful when I increased it beyond that. Currently I have it set to 131072.

Question: Does anyone have any idea what bottleneck I am hitting? An index's performance should in theory scale as the log of the number of rows - what am I missing here?

Thanks very much!
Karl


I suppose I should also have noted that the postgresql processes that are dealing with the transactions seem to be CPU bound. Here's a "top" from the running system:

top - 15:58:50 up 4 days,  4:45,  1 user,  load average: 17.14, 21.05, 22.46
Tasks: 194 total,  15 running, 177 sleeping,   0 stopped,   2 zombie
Cpu(s): 98.4% us,  1.5% sy,  0.0% ni,  0.0% id,  0.1% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Mem:  16634256k total, 16280244k used,   354012k free,   144560k buffers
Swap:  8008360k total,       56k used,  8008304k free, 15071968k cached

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
15966 postgres  18   0 1052m 1.0g 1.0g R 66.5  6.3   0:18.64 postmaster
14683 postgres  17   0 1053m 1.0g 1.0g R 54.9  6.3   0:17.90 postmaster
17050 postgres  15   0 1052m  93m  90m S 50.3  0.6   0:06.42 postmaster
16816 postgres  18   0 1052m 166m 162m R 46.3  1.0   0:04.80 postmaster
16697 postgres  18   0 1052m 992m 988m R 42.3  6.1   0:15.49 postmaster
17272 postgres  16   0 1053m 277m 273m S 30.8  1.7   0:09.91 postmaster
16659 postgres  16   0 1052m 217m 213m R 29.8  1.3   0:06.60 postmaster
15509 postgres  18   0 1052m 1.0g 1.0g R 23.2  6.4   0:26.72 postmaster
16329 postgres  18   0 1052m 195m 191m R 16.9  1.2   0:05.54 postmaster
14019 postgres  20   0 1052m 986m 983m R 16.5  6.1   0:16.50 postmaster
17002 postgres  18   0 1052m  38m  35m R 12.6  0.2   0:02.98 postmaster
16960 postgres  15   0 1053m 453m 449m S  3.3  2.8   0:10.39 postmaster
16421 postgres  15   0 1053m 1.0g 1.0g S  2.3  6.2   0:23.59 postmaster
13588 postgres  15   0 1052m 1.0g 1.0g D  0.3  6.4   0:47.89 postmaster
24708 root      15   0  2268 1136  836 R  0.3  0.0   0:05.92 top
    1 root      15   0  1584  520  452 S  0.0  0.0   0:02.08 init

Karl





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