Re: Thousands of tables versus on table?

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On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Tom Lane wrote:

david@xxxxxxx writes:
however I really don't understand why it is more efficiant to have a 5B
line table that you do a report/query against 0.1% of then it is to have
1000 different tables of 5M lines each and do a report/query against 100%
of.

Essentially what you are doing when you do that is taking the top few
levels of the index out of the database and putting it into the
filesystem; plus creating duplicative indexing information in the
database's system catalogs.

The degree to which this is a win is *highly* debatable, and certainly
depends on a whole lot of assumptions about filesystem performance.
You also need to assume that constraint-exclusion in the planner is
pretty doggone cheap relative to the table searches, which means it
almost certainly will lose badly if you carry the subdivision out to
the extent that the individual tables become small.  (This last could
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what is considered 'small'? a few thousand records, a few million records?

what multiplication factor would there need to be on the partitioning to make it worth while? 100 tables, 1000 tables, 10000 tables?

the company that I'm at started out with a seperate database per customer (not useing postgres), there are basicly zero cross-customer queries, with a large volume of updates and lookups.

overall things have now grown to millions of updates/day (some multiple of this in lookups), and ~2000 customers, with tens of millions of rows between them.

having each one as a seperate database has really helped us over the years as it's made it easy to scale (run 500 databases on each server instead of 1000, performance just doubled)

various people (not database experts) are pushing to install Oracle cluster so that they can move all of these to one table with a customerID column.

the database folks won't comment much on this either way, but they don't seem enthusiastic to combine all the data togeather.

I've been on the side of things that said that seperate databases is better becouse it improves data locality to only have to look at the data for one customer at a time rather then having to pick out that customer's data out from the mass of other, unrelated data.

be improved in some cases if we had a more explicit representation of
partitioning, but it'll never be as cheap as one more level of index
search.)

say you have a billing table of
customerID, date, description, amount, tax, extended, paid

and you need to do things like
report on invoices that haven't been paied
summarize the amount billed each month
summarize the tax for each month

but you need to do this seperately for each customerID (not as a batch job that reports on all customerID's at once, think a website where the customer can request such reports at any time with a large variation in criteria)

would you be able to just have one index on customerID and then another on date? or would the second one need to be on customerID||date?

and would this process of going throught he index and seeking to the data it points to really be faster then a sequential scan of just the data related to that customerID?

I think the main argument for partitioning is when you are interested in
being able to drop whole partitions cheaply.

I fully understand this if you are doing queries across all the partitions, but if your query is confined to a single partition, especially in the case where you know ahead of time in the application which 'partition' you care about it would seem that searching through significantly less data should be a win.

David Lang


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