Hi Jeff,
Ah, okay. I see what information you were looking for. Doing a
VACUUM on the full DB, we get the following results:
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INFO: free space map: 885 relations, 8315 pages stored; 177632 total
pages needed
DETAIL: Allocated FSM size: 1000 relations + 20000 pages = 178 kB
shared memory.
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-William
At 05:22 PM 7/7/2006, you wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, William Scott Jordan wrote:
Hi Jeff,
We are running ANALYZE with the hourly VACUUMs. Most of the time
the VACUUM for this table looks like this:
INFO: vacuuming "public.event_sums"
INFO: index "event_sums_event_available" now contains 56121 row
versions in 2256 pages
DETAIL: 102936 index row versions were removed.
1777 index pages have been deleted, 1635 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.03s/0.16u sec elapsed 1.04 sec.
INFO: index "event_sums_date_available" now contains 56121 row
versions in 5504 pages
DETAIL: 102936 index row versions were removed.
2267 index pages have been deleted, 2202 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.15s/0.25u sec elapsed 13.91 sec.
INFO: index "event_sums_price_available" now contains 56121 row
versions in 4929 pages
DETAIL: 102936 index row versions were removed.
149 index pages have been deleted, 149 are currently reusable.
CPU 0.13s/0.33u sec elapsed 0.51 sec.
INFO: "event_sums": removed 102936 row versions in 3796 pages
DETAIL: CPU 0.31s/0.26u sec elapsed 0.92 sec.
INFO: "event_sums": found 102936 removable, 35972 nonremovable row
versions in 170937 pages
DETAIL: 8008 dead row versions cannot be removed yet.
There were 4840134 unused item pointers.
0 pages are entirely empty.
CPU 5.13s/1.68u sec elapsed 209.38 sec.
INFO: analyzing "public.event_sums"
INFO: "event_sums": 171629 pages, 3000 rows sampled, 7328
estimated total rows
Hmmm..I was looking for something that looks like this:
INFO: free space map: 109 relations, 204 pages stored; 1792 total
pages needed
DETAIL: Allocated FSM size: 1000 relations + 20000 pages = 182 kB
shared memory.
VACUUM
Maybe 7.4 doesn't give this? Or maybe you need to run vacuumdb -a
-v to get it?
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There are a few things in the second vacuum results that catch my
eye, but I don't have the skill set to diagnose the problem. I do
know, however, that a REINDEX followed by a VACUUM FULL seems to
make the symptoms go away for a while.
And I agree that we should upgrade to an 8.x version of PG, but as
with many things in life time, money, and risk conspire against me.
You should still be able to use autovacuum, which might make you a
little happier. Which 7.4 version are you using?
-William
At 04:18 PM 7/7/2006, you wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, William Scott Jordan wrote:
Hi all!
Can anyone explain to me what VACUUM does that REINDEX
doesn't? We have a frequently updated table on Postgres 7.4 on
FC3 with about 35000 rows which we VACUUM hourly and VACUUM FULL
once per day. It seem like the table still slows to a crawl
every few weeks. Running a REINDEX by itself or a VACUUM FULL by
itself doesn't seem to help, but running a REINDEX followed
immediately by a VACUUM FULL seems to solve the problem.
I'm trying to decide now if we need to include a daily REINDEX
along with our daily VACUUM FULL, and more importantly I'm just
curious to know why we should or shouldn't do that.
Any information on this subject would be appreciated.
William,
If you're having to VACUUM FULL that often, then it's likely your
FSM settings are too low. What does the last few lines of VACUUM
VERBOSE say? Also, are you running ANALYZE with the vacuums or
just running VACUUM? You still need to run ANALYZE to update the
planner statistics, otherwise things might slowly grind to a
halt. Also, you should probably consider setting up autovacuum
and upgrading to 8.0 or 8.1 for better performance overall.
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Jeff Frost, Owner <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Frost Consulting, LLC http://www.frostconsultingllc.com/
Phone: 650-780-7908 FAX: 650-649-1954
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Frost Consulting, LLC http://www.frostconsultingllc.com/
Phone: 650-780-7908 FAX: 650-649-1954
