Hi Luke, I have gone to the max with 4 fibers on Sun Fire T2000. But I am not sure about the answers that you asked. Let me see if I can get answers for them. I am going to try to max out the IO on these systems with 8 fibers as soon as I get additional storage so stay tuned for that. By the way you don't have to wait for my tests. Just get a trial server and try it on your own. If you don't like it return it. https://www.sun.com/emrkt/trycoolthreads/contactme.html Check out Jonathan's blog for more details http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan However if you do try it with PostgreSQL, do let me know also with your experience. Regards, Jignesh ----- Original Message ----- From: Luke Lonergan <llonergan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Monday, December 19, 2005 12:31 pm Subject: Re: [PERFORM] PostgreSQL and Ultrasparc T1 To: Jignesh Shah <J.K.Shah@xxxxxxx> Cc: Juan Casero <caseroj@xxxxxxxxxxx>, pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Jignesh, > > > On 12/19/05 6:27 AM, "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Sun Fire T2000 has 3 PCI-E and 1PCI-X slot free when shipped. Using > > dual fiber channel 2G adapters you can get about 200MB x 8 = > 1600MB/sec> IO bandwidth. Plus when 4G HBAs are supported that will > double up. Now I > > think generally that's good enough for 1TB raw data or 2-3 TB > Database> size. Of course typically the database size in PostgreSQL > space will be > > in the 100-500GB range so a Sun Fire T2000 can be a good fit with > enough> area to grow at a very reasonable price. > > The free PCI slots don't indicate the I/O speed of the machine, > otherwiseI'll just go back 4 years and use a Xeon machine. > > Can you educate us a bit on the T-2000, like where can we find a > technicalpublication that can answer the following: > > Are all of the PCI-E and PCI-X independent, mastering channels? > Are they > connected via a crossbar or is it using the JBus? Is the usable > memorybandwidth available to the HBAs and CPU double the 1,600MB/s, > or 3,200MB/s? > > > Of course like someone mentioned if all you have is 1 connection > using> postgresql which cannot spawn helper processes/threads, this > will be > > limited by the single thread performance which is about 1.2Ghz > compared> on Sun Fire T2000 to AMD64 (Sun Fire X4200) which pretty > much has > > similar IO Bandwidth, same size chassis, but the individual > AMD64 cores > > runs at about 2.4Ghz (I believe) and max you can get is 4 cores > but you > > also have to do a little trade off in terms of power consumption > in lei > > of faster single thread performance. So Choices are available > with both > > architecture. .However if you have a webserver driving a postgreSQL > > backend, then UltraSPARC T1 might be a better option if you suddenly > > wants to do 100s of db connections. The SunFire T2000 gives you 8 > cores> with 32 threads in all running on the system. > > So - OLTP / webserver, that makes sense. > > - Luke > > >