On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 08:51, David Boreham wrote: > >Spend a fortune on dual core CPUs and then buy crappy disks... I bet > >for most applications this system will be IO bound, and you will see a > >nice lot of drive failures in the first year of operation with > >consumer grade drives. > > I guess I've never bought into the vendor story that there are > two reliability grades. Why would they bother making two > different kinds of bearing, motor etc ? Seems like it's more > likely an excuse to justify higher prices. In my experience the > expensive SCSI drives I own break frequently while the cheapo > desktop drives just keep chunking along (modulo certain products > that have a specific known reliability problem). > > I'd expect that a larger number of hotter drives will give a less reliable > system than a smaller number of cooler ones. My experience has mirrored this. Anyone remember back when HP made their SureStore drives? We built 8 drive RAID arrays to ship to customer sites, pre-filled with data. Not a single one arrived fully operational. The failure rate on those drives was something like 60% in the first year, and HP quit making hard drives because of it. Those were SCSI Server class drives, supposedly built to last 5 years. OTOH, I remember putting a pair of 60 Gig IDEs into a server that had lots of ventilation and fans and such, and having no problems whatsoever. There was a big commercial EMC style array in the hosting center at the same place that had something like a 16 wide by 16 tall array of IDE drives for storing pdf / tiff stuff on it, and we had at least one failure a month in it. Of course, that's 256 drives, so you're gonna have failures, and it was configured with a spare on every other row or some such. We just had a big box of hard drives and it was smart enough to rebuild automagically when you put a new one in, so the maintenance wasn't really that bad. The performance was quite impressive too. ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly