Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Detect who ran DROP schema

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>It's better to have one elevated user _without login privs_, to which people can SET ROLE when they require it.

This sounds interesting, but I'm not sure how to do it. Would you mind sharing an example?

Thanks,

George

On 24/07/2024 12:22 p.m., Alvaro Herrera wrote:
On 2024-Jul-24, Wetmore, Matthew  (CTR) wrote:

This is a major issue in the DBA world as enterprise management lawyers get more popular.

At a large company I was at, there was only one elevated user, (which several people had user/pass) and then our personal accounts cannot do much due to modern corporate governance.  This is how it was set up.

As the DBA I couldn’t even log into the linux box where postgres was installed.

I couldn’t even change any logging without a two day ticket to do the work.

Not specifically this issue, but this is more the norm now-a-days then not.
Yeah.  This is an important if there are any potential attackers at all,
which given today's Internet, you can be pretty sure is always the case.

A database where people are allowed to connect as superuser is a sure
way to get in trouble sooner rather than later.  Having layered security
is one of the first things you should be thinking about.

FWIW I think even that one elevated user to which several people have
user/pass is a bad idea; forensics would require to know who used the
password when.  It's better to have one elevated user _without login privs_,
to which people can SET ROLE when they require it.  This leaves a better
trail.

If you add something like pgAudit to the mix and direct its logs (or all
Postgres logs) to a remote server where they can't easily be tampered
with by attackers, you'll have a better trail of who did what, when,
with what credentials.

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