On May 27, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Charles Sprickman wrote:
>> On May 27, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Jorge Torralba <jorge.torralba@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> run this for validation
>>>
>>> select relname, last_autovacuum from pg_stat_user_tables order by last_autovacuum;
>>
>> Hi - thanks, I’d run some similar query before to see what wasn’t being vacuumed.
>>
>> While some tables seem to be now, here’s an example of an active db that’s still got some blanks in the last_autovacuum column:
>
> Does your system crash frequently? autovacuum would not process files
> unless they appear to cross the threshold values; and the statistics are
> reset whenever there's a crash recovery.
No frequent crashes. Not any that I know of even since moving to
this server (up 1046 days). So thats one thing to rule out. I also
know that no one has manually reset any of the stats counters.
> Perhaps those tables don't
> have enough recent activity. I see your oldest autovac dates are
> 2014-07 so perhaps you had crashes sometime before that.
This is starting to make sense.
On the same database, this data is kind of interesting:
relname | n_tup_ins | n_tup_upd | n_tup_del | last_autovacuum | autovacuum_count
---------------------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-------------------------------+------------------
optin | 7252274 | 0 | 1975631 | 2014-07-21 06:31:47.66319-04 | 3
log | 43045279 | 0 | 31641637 | 2014-10-18 04:55:22.227628-04 | 8
complaint | 3002663 | 6154 | 3002973 | 2014-10-18 10:43:18.224247-04 | 31
arch_subscriber | 8472659 | 8184029 | 96798 | 2014-11-19 08:27:32.895688-05 | 2
subscriber | 13625052 | 28592779 | 8473154 | 2014-12-05 10:12:48.340305-05 | 14
transactions | 2514676 | 5182 | 257117 | 2015-02-18 12:47:42.406487-05 | 3
post | 32521 | 50722 | 1557 | 2015-05-23 01:46:47.039179-04 | 1
post_actions | 98395891 | 43836 | 44881522 | 2015-05-26 10:03:43.259077-04 | 3
bounce | 631024 | 81 | 595087 | 2015-05-26 10:29:34.888937-04 | 13
bounce_reason | 7961281 | 32736 | 7953428 | 2015-05-26 10:29:34.918845-04 | 6
list_sub | 14562995 | 69515258 | 9009496 | 2015-05-28 15:58:13.754569-04 | 30
post_job | 8127 | 15908 | 8070 | 2015-05-28 21:52:54.923614-04 | 263
list_data | 7350 | 756705 | 6063 | 2015-05-29 12:34:42.323142-04 | 425
post_stats | 90155 | 40750025 | 108 | 2015-05-29 13:14:43.307775-04 | 569
limit_tracking | 30248 | 12689580 | 30192 | 2015-05-29 13:54:42.06234-04 | 50780
email | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
sending_rule_fields | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
sending_rule_files | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
post_threads | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
forwards | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
list | 9 | 28 | 7 | | 0
sub_active | 840019 | 0 | 0 | | 0
subscriber_db_field | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
slice_fields | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
sending_rule_esps | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
client | 1 | 0 | 0 | | 0
slices | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
fields | 11 | 0 | 0 | | 0
arch_list_sub | 8909636 | 0 | 101140 | | 0
sending_rules | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
subscriber_db_query | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
engagement | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
reject_rule | 608 | 0 | 0 | | 0
list_criterion | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
repltest | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
post_attachment | 1 | 0 | 0 | | 0
filters | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
messages | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
post_domain | 262398 | 1177 | 290 | | 0
track_url | 786 | 1394 | 1 | | 0
subscriber_data | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
message_attachments | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
migrations | 11 | 0 | 0 | | 0
subscriptions | 8606373 | 463446 | 0 | | 0
mailer | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
subscriber_db_file | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
track_hit | 29733544 | 86038 | 6383080 | | 0
engagement_rules | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 0
(48 rows)
Of all the tables that have NOT been autovacuumed, only a handful
have any real write activity. And on those I cant really get any
data as to WHEN the last activity was (unless I reset stats and
wait) although looking a bit closer I see some timestamped columns
and none of these tables have been touched in years. Good, I think.
Should I be worried about limit_tracking which has been vacuumed
about 50,000 times in the last few days? :) That seems a little
extreme.
Now if we assume the tables that werent vacuumed are not seeing any
new activity, my next problem is how to satisfy my nagios
check_postgres checks that look for tables that have not been
vacuumed in X days.
> How many workers are currently processing tables? (See
> pg_stat_activity) The more workers there are, the slower they become.
By workers, I assume you just mean pg processes? It varies, but
anywhere between a few dozen and a hundred.
> Perhaps they are all busy processing large tables and they never finish
> because of the vacuum_delay. On the other hand, naptime=40min means
> that from one worker start to the next one there's a 40min wait, which
> seems a bit too long. Normally the default of 1min is appropriate; why
> did you change that?
I think because I dont fully grasp how all these variables interact.
IIRC, when I set this it had something to do with compensating for
the number of databases and the number of workers.
Im looking at pgbadger’s analysis of vacuums and I think Im mostly OK
with whats happening.
Im still stumped on why changes from defaults were necessary to get
autovacuum to kick in though
Thanks,
Charles
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