Wells Oliver <wellsoliver@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > Alright but what's odd to me is that it's a standard out of the box ubuntu configuration, meaning: > > log_destination is 'stderr' > logging_collector is on > log_directory is /var/log/postgresql/ > log_filename is postgresql-%Y-%m-%d_%H%M%S.log > > When I ran pg_ctlcluster start, I only received "please check the log output", but there were no errors logged. There > are definitely log items when the server was running normally. > > When I ran postgres manually, I saw the permissions issue. My question then is where was this error sent when running > pg_ctlcliuster, or why was it squashed? It would have been helpful to have that from the start. Speculating here, but the bit about "please check the logs" is probably generic to pg_ctl and an error such as bad $PGDATA perms might be detected so early as to halt startup even before something like logging_collector is run and/or fully operational. That is, there might be a few types of errors that will be reported on /dev/tty or /dev/stderr in such a case and the "check logs" message is misleading. Consult your source code though for definitive answer :-) > -- > Wells Oliver > wellsoliver@xxxxxxxxx > > On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:23 AM, Giuseppe Broccolo <giuseppe.broccolo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Oliver, > > Il 12/07/2013 04:07, Wells Oliver ha scritto: > > I ran: > > pg_ctlcluster 9.1 main start > > Received: > > The PostgreSQL server failed to start. Please check the log output. > > But, hey, in /var/log/postgresql, there was absolutely no logging. Nothing. After some googling, I tried: > > usr/lib/postgresql/9.1/bin/postgres -D /data/postgresql/9.1/main -c config_file=/etc/postgresql/9.1/main/ > postgresql.conf > > From the command line, which spit out to the terminal: > > 2013-07-12 02:04:05 GMT [30091]: [1-1] FATAL: data directory "/data/postgresql/9.1/main" has group or world > access > > OK, so where the heck did this error message go when I was running pg_ctlcluster? It would have saved me a lot > of time. > > By default pg_ctlcluster script redirects postmaster's stderr into /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-9.1-main.log. > This works only if log_destination is stderr and logging_collector is disabled, else the logs are stored where > configured by log_destination, log_filename and log_directory in your postgresql.conf file. > > Advice is to look into your postgresql.conf how (and if) logging is configured. > > Regards, > Giuseppe. > > -- > Giuseppe Broccolo - 2ndQuadrant Italy > PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support > giuseppe.broccolo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx | www.2ndQuadrant.it > -- Jerry Sievers Postgres DBA/Development Consulting e: postgres.consulting@xxxxxxxxxxx p: 312.241.7800 -- Sent via pgsql-admin mailing list (pgsql-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-admin