so after trying i advance just a little bit but when running pg_upgrade for a check or upgrade i get: pg_control values: First log file ID after reset: 0 First log file segment after reset: 2 pg_control version number: 922 Catalog version number: 201204301 Database system identifier: 5890882831378718649 Latest checkpoint's TimeLineID: 1 Latest checkpoint's full_page_writes: on Latest checkpoint's NextXID: 0/726 Latest checkpoint's NextOID: 12047 Latest checkpoint's NextMultiXactId: 1 Latest checkpoint's NextMultiOffset: 0 Latest checkpoint's oldestXID: 716 Latest checkpoint's oldestXID's DB: 1 Latest checkpoint's oldestActiveXID: 0 Maximum data alignment: 4 Database block size: 8192 Blocks per segment of large relation: 131072 WAL block size: 8192 Bytes per WAL segment: 16777216 Maximum length of identifiers: 64 Maximum columns in an index: 32 Maximum size of a TOAST chunk: 2000 Date/time type storage: floating-point numbers Float4 argument passing: by value Float8 argument passing: by reference "/usr/local/pgsql.old/bin/pg_ctl" -w -l "pg_upgrade_server.log" -D "/usr/local/pgsql.old/data/" -o "-p 5432 -c autovacuum=off -c autovacuum_freeze_max_age=2000000000 -c listen_addresses='' -c unix_socket_permissions=0700" start >> "pg_upgrade_server.log" 2>&1 *failure* There were problems executing ""/usr/local/pgsql.old/bin/pg_ctl" -w -l "pg_upgrade_server.log" -D "/usr/local/pgsql.old/data/" -o "-p 5432 -c autovacuum=off -c autovacuum_freeze_max_age=2000000000 -c listen_addresses='' -c unix_socket_permissions=0700" start >> "pg_upgrade_server.log" 2>&1" Consult the last few lines of "pg_upgrade_server.log" for the probable cause of the failure. pg_ctl failed to start the old server, or connection failed Failure, exiting when going to the log file: pg_upgrade run on Tue Jun 18 11:58:08 2013 ----------------------------------------------------------------- command: "/usr/local/pgsql.old/bin/pg_ctl" -w -l "pg_upgrade_server.log" -D "/usr/local/pgsql.old/data/" -o "-p 5432 -c autovacuum=off -c $ waiting for server to start....LOG: database system was shut down at 2013-06-18 11:30:47 CST LOG: database system is ready to accept connections ...........................................................could not start server -- View this message in context: http://postgresql.1045698.n5.nabble.com/PG-UPGRADE-issues-this-utility-can-only-upgrade-to-postgresql-version-9-2-tp5759509p5759711.html Sent from the PostgreSQL - admin mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Sent via pgsql-admin mailing list (pgsql-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-admin