David Schnur <dnschnur@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > I'm less concerned with the particular query than with the general question > of when a shutdown could hang like this. I expected this to be possible > when using -m fast, but my understanding was that -m immediate really forced > termination. Yeah, it's supposed to. The sequence is pg_ctl -m immediate sends SIGQUIT to the postmaster, which in turn sends SIGQUIT to all its child processes, and their SIGQUIT interrupt handlers just immediately exit(). I was thinking earlier that there might be a bug in the postmaster state machine that prevented it from sending SIGQUIT if it had already received SIGTERM (-m fast), but a look at the sources doesn't support that theory. The only obvious theory at this point is that the backend is stuck in some uninterruptable kernel call, but it's hard to imagine what. Is the postmaster still there after -m immediate, or does it quit? If it's still there, maybe there's some problem in the earlier part of the sequence. A gdb stack trace from whichever processes are still there after -m immediate could be informative. Another thing you could try is a manual "kill -QUIT pid" on the uncooperative backend(s). regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-admin mailing list (pgsql-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-admin