Hi All, Tom, please see bellow are the results for the modified query with ORDER BY select pg_size_pretty(pg_database_size('db1')); ----> pg_size_pretty ---------------- 12 GB SELECT 'the table size without table space restrictions'; SELECT nspname || '.' || relname AS "relation",pg_size_pretty(pg_total_relation_size(nspname || '.' || relname)) AS "s ize" FROM pg_class C LEFT JOIN pg_namespace N ON (N.oid = C.relnamespace) ORDER BY pg_total_relation_size(nspname || '.' || relname) DESC LIMIT 1000; ------------------------------------------------------+------------ caom.spatialentity | 3216 MB caom.artifact | 2150 MB caom.plane | 677 MB caom.positionsample | 219 MB caom.simpleobservation | 202 MB caom.artifact_i1 | 171 MB caom.spatialentity_i1 | 162 MB caom.temporalentity | 86 MB caom.plane_psi2 | 86 MB caom.spectralentity | 73 MB caom.metric | 70 MB caom.plane_energy_i1 | 67 MB caom.plane_time_i1 | 58 MB caom.plane_position_i2 | 48 MB caom.polarizationentity | 33 MB caom.simpleobservation_i2 | 25 MB caom.plane_psi1 | 23 MB caom.metric_i2 | 18 MB caom.metric_i1 | 18 MB caom.plane_i1 | 15 MB caom.plane_position_i3 | 15 MB caom.plane_polar_i1 | 15 MB caom.plane_time_i2 | 15 MB caom.plane_energy_i2 | 15 MB caom.plane_i2 | 15 MB caom.simpleobservation_i1 | 12 MB caom.temporalentity_i1 | 9496 kB caom.spectralentity_i1 | 4384 kB caom.polarizationentity_i1 | 4368 kB caom.harvestskip | 2056 kB pg_catalog.pg_depend | 1008 kB pg_catalog.pg_proc | 880 kB caom.harveststate | 856 kB pg_catalog.pg_attribute | 648 kB caom.positionhole | 584 kB pg_catalog.pg_statistic | 576 kB caom.plane_phi2 | 496 kB caom.harvestskip_i1 | 480 kB pg_catalog.pg_proc_proname_args_nsp_index | 328 kB pg_catalog.pg_operator | 296 kB pg_catalog.pg_description | 280 kB pg_catalog.pg_depend_depender_index | 264 kB pg_catalog.pg_depend_reference_index | 264 kB pg_catalog.pg_rewrite | 256 kB pg_catalog.pg_attribute_relid_attnam_index | 240 kB pg_toast.pg_toast_2618 | 160 kB pg_catalog.pg_type | 144 kB pg_catalog.pg_class | 136 kB pg_catalog.pg_amop | 128 kB pg_catalog.pg_operator_oprname_l_r_n_index | 112 kB pg_catalog.pg_description_o_c_o_index | 96 kB pg_toast.pg_toast_2619 | 96 kB pg_catalog.pg_constraint | 80 kB pg_catalog.pg_conversion | 80 kB pg_catalog.pg_amproc | 72 kB pg_catalog.pg_attribute_relid_attnum_index | 72 kB pg_catalog.pg_proc_oid_index | 72 kB pg_catalog.pg_opclass | 72 kB pg_catalog.pg_trigger | 56 kB pg_catalog.pg_type_typname_nsp_index | 56 kB pg_catalog.pg_index | 56 kB information_schema.sql_features | 48 kB pg_catalog.pg_cast | 48 kB pg_catalog.pg_class_relname_nsp_index | 48 kB pg_catalog.pg_database | 48 kB pg_catalog.pg_authid | 48 kB pg_catalog.pg_ts_config_map | 48 kB pg_catalog.pg_opfamily | 48 kB pg_catalog.pg_language | 40 kB pg_catalog.pg_shdepend | 40 kB pg_catalog.pg_ts_parser | 40 kB pg_catalog.pg_ts_template | 40 kB pg_catalog.pg_auth_members | 40 kB pg_catalog.pg_ts_config | 40 kB pg_catalog.pg_ts_dict | 40 kB pg_catalog.pg_operator_oid_index | 40 kB pg_catalog.pg_tablespace | 40 kB pg_catalog.pg_namespace | 40 kB pg_catalog.pg_am | 40 kB pg_toast.pg_toast_45054 | 32 kB pg_catalog.pg_conversion_name_nsp_index | 32 kB pg_catalog.pg_shdescription | 32 kB tap_schema.tables | 32 kB pg_catalog.pg_statistic_relid_att_index | 32 kB pg_catalog.pg_amop_fam_strat_index | 32 kB tap_schema.schemas | 32 kB pg_catalog.pg_amproc_fam_proc_index | 32 kB pg_catalog.pg_ts_config_map_index | 32 kB tap_schema.columns | 32 kB caom.plane_phi1 | 32 kB pg_catalog.pg_amop_oid_index | 32 kB pg_catalog.pg_amop_opr_fam_index | 32 kB pg_catalog.pg_opclass_am_name_nsp_index | 32 kB caom.deletedplane | 24 kB pg_catalog.pg_pltemplate | 24 kB pg_catalog.pg_attrdef | 24 kB tap_schema.keys | 24 kB caom.deletedspatialentity | 24 kB caom.deletedpolarizationentity | 24 kB caom.compositeobservation | 24 kB caom.deletedtemporalentity | 24 kB caom.deletedartifact | 24 kB caom.deletedspectralentity | 24 kB pg_catalog.pg_aggregate | 24 kB information_schema.sql_implementation_info | 16 kB information_schema.sql_languages | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_enum | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_ts_config_oid_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_trigger_oid_index | 16 kB tap_schema.schemas_pkey | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_constraint_conrelid_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_conversion_default_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_namespace_oid_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_namespace_nspname_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_cast_source_target_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_constraint_contypid_index | 16 kB information_schema.sql_packages | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_aggregate_fnoid_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_rewrite_oid_index | 16 kB pg_toast.pg_toast_2618_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_trigger_tgconstrname_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_trigger_tgrelid_tgname_index | 16 kB information_schema.sql_parts | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_authid_rolname_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_authid_oid_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_auth_members_role_member_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_auth_members_member_role_index | 16 kB information_schema.sql_sizing | 16 kB tap_schema.keys_pkey | 16 kB tap_schema.columns_pkey | 16 kB caom.deletedplane_i1 | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_database_datname_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_database_oid_index | 16 kB caom.deletedpolarizationentity_i1 | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_shdescription_o_c_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_language_name_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_language_oid_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_index_indrelid_index | 16 kB caom.timesample | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_am_name_index | 16 kB pg_toast.pg_toast_2619_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_constraint_conname_nsp_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_index_indexrelid_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_am_oid_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_pltemplate_name_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_shdepend_depender_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_shdepend_reference_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_tablespace_oid_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_tablespace_spcname_index | 16 kB pg_toast.pg_toast_45054_index | 16 kB caom.deletedtemporalentity_i1 | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_ts_dict_oid_index | 16 kB caom.deletedspectralentity_i1 | 16 kB caom.deletedspatialentity_i1 | 16 kB caom.deletedartifact_i1 | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_constraint_oid_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_opfamily_am_name_nsp_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_opfamily_oid_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_opclass_oid_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_amproc_oid_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_class_oid_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_rewrite_rel_rulename_index | 16 kB pg_catalog.pg_ts_config_cfgname_index | 16 kB tap_schema.tables_pkey | 16 kB Thank you Isabella Hi All, Please, see more info my env: PG 8.3.6 on RHE5-64bits. 1. there are more than one schemas, but the size of the tables is close to 30-40kB, see some samples schemaname | tablename | size_pretty | total_size_pretty ------------+-------------+-------------+------------------- tap_schema | tables | 8192 bytes | 32 kB tap_schema | columns | 8192 bytes | 32 kB tap_schema | schemas | 8192 bytes | 32 kB tap_schema | keys | 8192 bytes | 24 kB tap_schema | key_columns | 8192 bytes | 8192 bytes 2. There are no BLOB's data type in db at this time : cvodb=# select * from pg_largeobject; loid | pageno | data ------+--------+------ (0 rows) 3. As Tom suggested , I excluded the table space restriction and changed to pg_total_relation_size my original SQL : SELECT 'the table size without table space restrictions'; SELECT nspname || '.' || relname AS "relation",pg_size_pretty(pg_total_relation_size(nspname || '.' || relname)) AS "s ize" FROM pg_class C LEFT JOIN pg_namespace N ON (N.oid = C.relnamespace) ORDER BY pg_relation_size(nspname || '.' || relname) DESC LIMIT 20; the table size without table space restrictions (1 row) relation | size ---------------------------+--------- caom.spatialentity | 3216 MB caom.artifact | 2150 MB caom.plane | 677 MB caom.artifact_i1 | 171 MB caom.simpleobservation | 202 MB caom.spatialentity_i1 | 162 MB caom.positionsample | 219 MB caom.plane_psi2 | 86 MB caom.temporalentity | 86 MB caom.spectralentity | 73 MB caom.plane_energy_i1 | 67 MB caom.plane_time_i1 | 58 MB caom.plane_position_i2 | 48 MB caom.metric | 70 MB caom.polarizationentity | 33 MB caom.simpleobservation_i2 | 25 MB caom.plane_psi1 | 23 MB caom.metric_i2 | 18 MB caom.metric_i1 | 18 MB caom.plane_position_i3 | 15 MB (20 rows) 4. Where are the rest of 5,5 GB been used ? How can I get the system catalog correct size ? Thank you, Isabella Tom Lane wrote: > > Isabella Ghiurea <isabella.ghiurea@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > I'm trying to understand why there are GB's difference when checking > > for db size using pg_size_pretty() and querying for tables + indexes > > size. . > > You are not counting everything --- the total DB size is clearly 12GB, > so the question is where are the other 5.5GB? Your first query shows > that schema caom accounts for 6+GB, but the second one does not prove > that schema caom contains all the big hogs. My guesses are: > > 1. Toast tables for tables that aren't in caom --- you used > pg_relation_size not pg_total_relation_size, and excluded toast > tables, so you are missing those. > > 2. pg_largeobject ... got any large objects? > > 3. Bloat in other system catalogs. 5GB of catalog bloat would be > pretty awful, but maybe that's what it is. > > Try that last query without the namespace restrictions. > > > regards, tom lane Hi Pg Admin list. I'm trying to understand why there are GB's difference when checking for db size using pg_size_pretty() and querying for tables + indexes size. . The sum of tables +index sizes is showing as aprox 6.5GB and pg_size_pretty(dbname) is coming as 12GB, this are the results after a full vacuum and reindexdb, also the sum of OS db files size is ~ 6.5GB. Any tips what I'm missing : are some "unallocated" db pages or anything else ? select pg_size_pretty(pg_database_size('db1')); pg_size_pretty ---------------- 12 GB (1 row) *** Check for tables size : SELECT schemaname, tablename, pg_size_pretty(size) AS size_pretty, pg_size_pretty(total_size) AS total_size_pretty FROM (SELECT *, pg_relation_size(schemaname||'.'||tablename) AS size,pg_total_relation_size(schemaname||'.'||tablename) AS total_size FROM pg_tables) AS TABLES where schemaname='caom' ORDER BY total_size DESC; schemaname | tablename | size_pretty | total_size_pretty ------------+-----------------------------+-------------+------------------- caom | spatialentity | 3053 MB | 3216 MB caom | artifact | 1979 MB | 2150 MB caom | plane | 413 MB | 677 MB caom | positionsample | 110 MB | 219 MB caom | simpleobservation | 165 MB | 202 MB caom | temporalentity | 77 MB | 86 MB caom | spectralentity | 68 MB | 73 MB caom | metric | 33 MB | 70 MB caom | polarizationentity | 29 MB | 33 MB caom | harvestskip | 1576 kB | 2056 kB caom | harveststate | 840 kB | 856 kB caom | positionhole | 48 kB | 584 kB *** OR : check for the biggest tables+index size: SELECT ' Top 20 biggest tables and indexes' ; SELECT nspname || '.' || relname AS "relation", pg_size_pretty(pg_relation_size(nspname || '.' || relname)) AS "size" FROM pg_class C LEFT JOIN pg_namespace N ON (N.oid = C.relnamespace) WHERE nspname NOT IN ('pg_catalog', 'information_schema') AND nspname !~ '^pg_toast' AND pg_relation_size(nspname || '.' || relname)>0 ORDER BY pg_relation_size(nspname || '.' || relname) DESC LIMIT 20; (1 row) relation | size ---------------------------+--------- caom.spatialentity | 3053 MB caom.artifact | 1979 MB caom.plane | 413 MB caom.artifact_i1 | 171 MB caom.simpleobservation | 165 MB caom.spatialentity_i1 | 162 MB caom.positionsample | 110 MB caom.plane_psi2 | 86 MB caom.temporalentity | 77 MB caom.spectralentity | 68 MB caom.plane_energy_i1 | 67 MB caom.plane_time_i1 | 58 MB caom.plane_position_i2 | 48 MB caom.metric | 33 MB caom.polarizationentity | 29 MB caom.simpleobservation_i2 | 25 MB caom.plane_psi1 | 23 MB caom.metric_i2 | 18 MB Thank you Isabella -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--ADMIN--db-size-and-tables-size-difference-tp25531211p25531211.html Sent from the PostgreSQL - admin mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Sent via pgsql-admin mailing list (pgsql-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-admin