Re: vacuum verbose relations reporting

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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Tom Lane wrote:

Jeff Frost <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
No I actually mean that this part:
Current limits are:  600000 page slots, 10000 relations, using 4587 kB.
NOTICE:  max_fsm_relations(10000) equals the number of relations checked
HINT:  You have at least 10000 relations.  Consider increasing the

Just tells me that I'm equal or greater than max_fsm_relations.

Yeah, because that's all that can be told from the contents of the
shared free space map: it's full, but we have no idea how many other
tables might have been competing for space in it.

But vacuum verbose does tell me how many page_slots are in use even
when it's greater than max_fsm_pages, so you know what value to use in
postgresql.conf for the fsm settings.

Well, no :-(.  What that number is is the number of page slots that the
relations that are in the FSM would have liked to have --- we have the
"request" size as well as the "allocated" size for each such relation.
We have no idea how many slots the relations that aren't in FSM might
have liked to have.

This whole design is pretty awful, of course (I can say that because it
was my design :-().  There is work in progress to make the fixed-size
FSM go away entirely in 8.4, which will certainly be a boon to DBAs.

Tom, is there an easy (or hard) way to count relations from all DBs by using the system catalogs?

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