On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Medi Montaseri <montaseri@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Medi Montaseri <montaseri@xxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> > Yes, this type of presumptuous behavior to wipe out a production >> > database >> > based on a few checks is too risky... >> > >> > Behavior one: >> > First out-of-box time, pg_ctl does not find any database files, it tells >> > the >> > user that "sorry I did not find any database to start....see initdb.... >> > Result: we have a semi-unhappy user/admin that says... what is initdb >> > >> > Behavior two: >> > In order to enhance the out-of-box experience, we have wiped out a >> > production environment, leading to many unhappy staff and customers.... >> > >> > PG developers...I am not impressed at all... >> >> In defense of the pg developers, the behaviour you describe was >> removed long ago BECAUSE of the issues you mention. >> >> The fact is that pg developers can't police every distro out there to >> make sure they've removed such hinky behaviour from their startup >> scripts. So, the persons to NOT be impressed with at all are the >> folks who maintain your OS's postgresql packaging, not the pg >> developers. > > > stand corrected > >> >> >> Course, you can always switch to MySQL, or Oracle, or MSSQL where >> nothing like that ever happens. uh huh. > > Never...I rather stay and fix it...than run away to a different country Me too. Sorry I really shoulda tossed a smily on the end there... :) There's one now...