You can be absolutely certain that the tar backup of a file that's changed is a complete waste of time. Because it changed while you were copying it. Steve. On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:24:00 +0200 "Brian Modra" <epailty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Sorry to be hammering this point, but I want to be totally sure its OK, > rather than 5 months down the line attempt to recover, and it fails... > > Are you absolutely certain that the tar backup of the file that changed, is > OK? (And that even if that file is huge, tar has managed to save the file as > it was before it was changed - otherwise I'm afraid that the first part of > the file is saved to tar, and then the file is modified, and the last part > of the file is saved to tar from the point it was modified - and so > therefore not consistent with the first part... And therefore the file has > lost its integrity, so even a WAL restore won't help because the base files > themselves are corrupt in the tar file? > > On 16/01/2008, Joshua D. Drake <jd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Brian Modra wrote: > > > The documentation about WAL says that you can start a live backup, as > > > long as you use WAL backup also. > > > I'm concerned about the integrity of the tar file. Can someone help me > > > with that? > > > > If you are using point in time recovery: > > > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/static/continuous-archiving.html > > > > You do not have to worry about it. > > > > Joshua D. Drake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16/01/2008, *Joshua D. Drake* <jd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > <mailto:jd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > > > > > > Brian Modra wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > If tar reports that a file was modified while it was being > > archived, > > > > does that mean that the file was archived correctly, or is it > > > corrupted > > > > in the archive? > > > > Does tar take a snapshot of the file so that even if it is > > > modified, at > > > > least the archive is safe? > > > > > > You can not use tar to backup postgresql if it is running. > > > > > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/static/backup.html > > > <http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/static/backup.html> > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Joshua D. Drake > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Brian Modra Land line: +27 23 5411 462 > > > > Mobile: +27 79 183 8059 > > > > 6 Jan Louw Str, Prince Albert, 6930 > > > > Postal: P.O. Box 2, Prince Albert 6930 > > > > South Africa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Brian Modra Land line: +27 23 5411 462 > > > Mobile: +27 79 183 8059 > > > 6 Jan Louw Str, Prince Albert, 6930 > > > Postal: P.O. Box 2, Prince Albert 6930 > > > South Africa > > > > > > > -- > Brian Modra Land line: +27 23 5411 462 > Mobile: +27 79 183 8059 > 6 Jan Louw Str, Prince Albert, 6930 > Postal: P.O. Box 2, Prince Albert 6930 > South Africa > -- Steve Holdoway <steve.holdoway@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly