On Mon, 29 May 2006 14:57:15 +1000 Tim Allen <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Russell Davie wrote: > > On Sun, 28 May 2006 20:59:33 -0400 Tom Lane <tgl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > >> There is no such error message anywhere in the PG 7.4 source code. > >> I suppose it's coming out of whatever init script you're using; > >> have you tried reading the init script for enlightenment? > > > Interesting! I never thought it could be the window manager. This is > > still occurring using Metacity and it still happened in Enlightnement > > and WindowMaker and also at CLI without any window-manager at all! > > I'm quite sure that Tom was referring to enlightenment in the general > sense of the word, ie some init script (eg the one for the postgresql > service) might enlighten you as to what is going on! :-) thanks for that! <doh> I *was* wondering what he meant and found the error message in start-up script /usr/share/postgresql-common/PgCommon.pm Reading the script suggests that the user to be a member of the "shadow" group, which is now done. However, postgresql is still not starting and produces the same errors: postgres@XXXXX:~$ /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 start chmod: changing permissions of `/var/run/postgresql': Operation not permitted * Starting PostgreSQL 7.4 database server:main Error: Could not change user id [fail] Are there special privileges that the "shadow" group has? What is eluding me is decyphering it into practical steps to getting postgresql working again. TIA Rusell > > Tim > > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > Tim Allen tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Proximity Pty Ltd http://www.proximity.com.au/ > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx so that your > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly