QUOTE: Exactly this issue and that you have to make a 'full' dump/restore between major release is a big minus I hear everywhere I explain/discuss about postgres for 24/7 and big databases. END QUOTE Yes but how often does a major release come out? 17th Jan 2005 was the first date of 8.0 according to the FTP site, with 8.1 out in November 2005. If it takes a whole day to do a dump/restore, that's only one day out of about 270 or more. Plus in MS SQL Server, once you've moved on a version (e.g. 7 to 2000) you can't go back - whereas in PGSQL you can just re-dump your data and revert back to the previous version providing you're not using any features the previous version doesn't understand - it gives much more flexibility and more confidence in the upgrade. Andy -----Original Message----- From: pgsql-admin-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pgsql-admin-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rafael Martinez Guerrero Sent: Tuesday, 28 March, 2006 1:09 PM To: Jim C. Nasby Cc: Tom Lane; Peter Eisentraut; pgsql-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Gregory Maxwell Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Bloated pg_shdepend_depender_index On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 17:43, Jim C. Nasby wrote: > > Therein lies part of the problem: enough disk space. Now that we're > seeing more and more use of PostgreSQL in data warehousing, it's > becomming less safe to assume you'll have enough disk space to fix bloat > on large tables. Plus I suspect a lot of folks wouldn't be able to > tolerate being locked out of a table for that long (of course that > applies to VACUUM FULL as well...) > Hello Exactly this issue and that you have to make a 'full' dump/restore between major release is a big minus I hear everywhere I explain/discuss about postgres for 24/7 and big databases. It would be wonderful to see a solution to these two 'problems' in the future so postgres becomes an even better product than it is now. -- Rafael Martinez, <r.m.guerrero@xxxxxxxxxxx> Center for Information Technology Services University of Oslo, Norway PGP Public Key: http://folk.uio.no/rafael/ ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster !DSPAM:14,4429279535041476526676!