Re: 8.0.3 pg_autovacuum doesn't clear out stats table?

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Hi Matt,

Thanks for the reply.


Matthew T. O'Connor wrote:

What do you mean by stats table entries? Are you saying there is bloat in a specific table, or just the whole database?

The table in question is pg_statistic. It's pages as reported by pg_class.relpages grow without bound until I perform a vacuum full.

I do a "vacuum full" and it drops in size to next to nothing.

I have a standby database server configured in the same way, with the same data set, but almost completely idle; I did the vacuum full on it ~1-2 months back when I started to look into this issue; since then it has accumulated 215K relpages (which is, I think, around 1.7G!) in the pg_statistic table.

Chasing through pg_database.oid and pg_class.relfilenode I compute that pg_statistic should be stored in $PGDATA/base/17230/16408. Here is what du reports for those files:

1049600 17230/16408
1049600 17230/16408.1
1049600 17230/16408.2
15912   17230/16408.3

Which is a total of just over 3G (this implies to me that the relpages count in the pg_class table is out of date).

Looking at another (tiny) database that is definitely only used for testing and I know hasn't been used in months it's pg_statistic has also grown to 1.1G on disk.

Second, I think you need to make autovacuum more aggressive. I think most people find that the vacuum scaling factor should be more like 0.3 or so. With the settings you have a 1000 tuple table would have to see 3000 invalidated tuples before it does a vacuum that is probably much more slack space than you want.

Valuable advice, but as it happens we delete next to nothing and I think the disk space in use by the database is reasonable for the data stored.

Third: Are you seeing in the autovacuum log that autovacuum is actually trying to vacuum tables? Turn up the debugging to -d2 that should give you some more info as to why autovac is (or is not) doing what it's doing.

I will turn it on and take a look. I am guessing it will tell me that for whatever reason it isn't actually doing anything to the pg_catalog tables ...

Fourth: there will always be some slack space. Under the best of circumstances, a database running with autovac will be somewhat bigger than the database right after a VACUUM FULL, probably not 2.5G, but some.

Understood - I am happy for there to be 50% slack - I just don't understand why pg_statistic grows without bound and I am concerned that the size of the stats table might be causing me some performance issues (this is fear rather than fact).

Thanks again,

Robin



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