jnasby@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ("Jim C. Nasby") writes: > <dons Nomex undies> > Well, I would generally have to agree on not using Slony 1 for HA. I > don't see how it could be considered acceptable to potentially lose > committed transactions when the master fails. Unless maybe my > understanding of Slony is flawed... Well, that presumably depends on perspective. A bank generally cannot ever afford to lose ANY transactions, which would tend to mean that only synchronous replication would be any kind of answer. That kind of application points to really forcibly needing 2PC, which doesn't tend to play well across WAN links. Maximizing availability, which is what HA is forcibly and unambiguously about ("High Availability"), is NOT exactly the same thing as "providing guarantees that committed transactions can never be lost." - HA, in the context of DNS services, may not have any "transactional" nature to it; you might well want to have several DNS servers kicking around so that if one falls over, you don't have to notice. That does not really imply anything about how you update your DNS configuration. - HA, in the context of running your corporate web server, may just involve having several web servers, any of which can take over upon failure of other web servers. Updating the static bits of those web servers might well be done by taking them out of service, one by one, and copying the new data into place; again, no "transactional" issue there at all. Those are both reasonable examples of applications where one might want to use HA; neither involve transactional guarantees *at all*. I don't think Slony-I is the *only* tool one would want to use to "improve availability;" if you do have bank-like "can't lose transactions" requirements, that might well rule it out. Of course, if those are the requirements, there may be a whole lot of possible mechanisms that are ruled out. -- (reverse (concatenate 'string "moc.enworbbc" "@" "enworbbc")) http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/emacs.html Rules of the Evil Overlord #113. "I will make the main entrance to my fortress standard-sized. While elaborate 60-foot high double-doors definitely impress the masses, they are hard to close quickly in an emergency." <http://www.eviloverlord.com/>