Hi, I have just performed an upgrade on a 5 year old server (hardware) running 3 year old software - PG 7.2.x I have moved to PG 8.1.1 installed from FC4 rpms I have tried the following: createdb xxx -E LATIN1 <- old version had this encoding (intranet server dates from 2000 upgrade to 7.2 done in 2002) psql -d xxxx -U postgres -f xxxx.out.1 <- this being my daily dump When I connect to the database with either webmin or pgaccess I have multiple tables where it is shown as 0 tuples. The data is there (read using nedit on the dump file) but not being read by either of the interfaces I usually use for basic data control. And my JSP webapp is choking on the French accents. I have yet to try OpenOffice which is now the secondary data manipulation tool used by the client after the JSP app. After a long Google I have come here to ask of you some pointers =:-D Cheers Tony Grant -- Tony Grant www.tgds.net - vente d'ordinateurs mini-itx en ligne www.tgds.net/epiaix1.html - A fedora Core 4 based live CD for VIA Epia-M