I've been playing with postgresql for a while now. I'm curious how others develop front ends for pg. I have looked at using pgaccess, and ReKall. Both seem pretty good. I've also been playing with MS Access and using the pgodbc drivers. I am using kerberized ssh access to the linux box running pg8. If I used the odbc driver then I need to tunnel that to pg -- and then I have to put up with the typical windows user not reading the simple instructions to click on an icon to log into a system -- and then I have to worry about what kind of shell to give to a user if they are only using pg. On the other hand, if I develop in pgaccess or ReKall then I have them shell into the linux box and actually make 'that' there shell -- but then I have to tunnel X. It doesn't seem like nirvana -- and it is not as 'seamless' as using the product from Redmond that shall not be named. So, I am very interested in what others are using to build a good ui for a pg application. Any comments? -- David Bear phone: 480-965-8257 fax: 480-965-9189 College of Public Programs/ASU Wilson Hall 232 Tempe, AZ 85287-0803 "Beware the IP portfolio, everyone will be suspect of trespassing" ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match