The catastrophic error was the actual text sent from the IIS component error. SO I am not 100% sure what it means, I believe it is just mirroring back text from the dbserver when trying to connect and failing. I am guessing it is odbc and I am currently using the 7.4 version, but am looking for the best way to move from SQL_ASCHII to UNICODE (maybe a backup and restore using some kind of params? I hope? If not I guess I could alter my original program that read MSSQL to read from postgres and write it back to a Unicode database and see if the odbc drivers are ok (it originally blew up and that's how I ended up using SQL_ASCHII). Joel Fradkin What does a catastrophic error consist of? Do you mean your IIS servers could no longer connect to the db, and yet you _could_ connect to the db via pgadmin? Yes the web interface gave that as the conection error string (my error routine just prints that to the screen) I would have thought that rebooting the IIS would have solved any connectivity issues (assuming that that is the error that you are getting). I've never used IIS, so I can't even guess about that. ODBC is a possibility, I suppose, and it certainly wouldn't hurt to try again on the ODBC list. Cheers, Bricklen -- _______________________________ This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. _______________________________