Re: [perfbook] Possible improvements of Figures 9.11 -- 9.13

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On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 07:43:40AM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 11:46:38 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 12:32:30AM +0900, Akira Yokosawa wrote:
> >> Hi Paul,
> >>
> >> I'm reviewing Section 9.5.
> >> I find Figures 9.11 -- 9.13 are somewhat hard to grasp.
> >>
> >> In those figures, P0() is called "RCU Reader" due to the
> >> RCU read-side critical section.
> >>
> >> However, it updates x and y, and you are talking about
> >> final values of x and y.
> >>
> >> At first glance, it looked as though P0() would read from
> >> x and y, and get values 1 or 2.
> >>
> >> Some clarification would help new readers of Edition 2,
> >> I suppose.
> > 
> > How about as shown below?  (Not particularly human-readable given that
> > I modified the figures as well.)
> 
> So, I was totally confused by those figures!
> P0() is literally a reader from the beginning.  Oh well...
> 
> Updated text and figures would not have confused me.

Very good, thank you!

Unfortunately, it is perfectly legal to have writes in RCU read-side
critical sections.  I have added a QQ on this, shown below.

This is not just RCU!  Please see section 5.4.6 ("Applying Exact Limit
Counters") for an example with writes in reader-writer locking read-side
critical sections.  Names can be slippery things.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul

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commit 35fbf113d662365d5f8717e273af55838038f52e
Author: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date:   Tue Mar 9 13:44:55 2021 -0800

    defer/rcufundamental: Add QQ about writes in RCU readers
    
    Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@xxxxxxxxxx>

diff --git a/defer/rcufundamental.tex b/defer/rcufundamental.tex
index d8ca411..f2e643f 100644
--- a/defer/rcufundamental.tex
+++ b/defer/rcufundamental.tex
@@ -312,6 +312,29 @@ Section~\ref{sec:formal:Axiomatic Approaches and RCU}.
 In addition, RCU's ordering properties are examined in much
 greater detail in Section~\ref{sec:memorder:RCU}.
 
+\QuickQuiz{
+	What would happen if \co{P0()}'s accesses in
+	\crefrange{fig:defer:RCU Reader and Later Grace Period}{fig:defer:RCU Reader Within Grace Period}
+	were stores?
+}\QuickQuizAnswer{
+	The exact same ordering rules would apply, that is,
+	(1)~If any part of \co{P0()}'s RCU read-side critical section
+	preceded the beginning of \co{P1()}'s grace period, all of
+	\co{P0()}'s RCU read-side critical section would precede the
+	end of \co{P1()}'s grace period, and
+	(2)~If any part of \co{P0()}'s RCU read-side critical section
+	followed the end of \co{P1()}'s grace period, all of \co{P0()}'s
+	RCU read-side critical section would follow the beginning of
+	\co{P1()}'s grace period.
+
+	It might seem strange to have RCU read-side critical sections
+	containing writes, but RCU is just fine with this.  This
+	capability is used frequently in the Linux kernel, for example,
+	acquiring a lock on or reference to a data structure.  Acquiring
+	either a lock or a reference results in a write to memory,
+	and it is OK to do these within an RCU read-side critical section.
+}\QuickQuizEnd
+
 Although RCU's wait-for-readers capability really is sometimes used to
 order the assignment of values to variables as shown in
 \crefrange{fig:defer:RCU Reader and Later Grace Period}



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